Babble: Archived Puzzle for Tuesday, March 5, 2013

12:01 am

ursh

flip - nice size for a busy day

12:03 am

licketySplitAUS

Clues are up

12:03 am

cosdem

dead in here

12:03 am

Erda

Thank you, Lickety!!!

12:04 am

ursh

oh hi cos - i thought there was something wrong with the chog

12:04 am

cosdem

lol prob was part of it :) hi

12:04 am

cosdem

nbt

12:05 am

cosdem

iz 4

12:05 am

VolleymomDee

flip; hi all; hi cos, ursh, erda ty lickety

12:05 am

Erda

Hi Dee

12:05 am

cosdem

hi dee

12:05 am

Erda

moss

12:05 am

torgone

nbt .. thanks cos!

12:06 am

Erda

raze

12:06 am

Erda

team

12:06 am

cosdem

phantom masseuse . yw tor

12:06 am

Erda

did it again --- sorry!!!

12:06 am

cosdem

we 8

12:06 am

cosdem

we 7

12:07 am

cybernan

nbt

12:08 am

VolleymomDee

hi nan

12:08 am

cosdem

ma 7/52

12:08 am

VolleymomDee

we 7 x 2

12:08 am

dizgrannie

hi all!! NBT/NBS

12:08 am

dizgrannie

sorry...just NBT, os 9

12:09 am

torgone

nbs ..thanks diz!

12:10 am

cosdem

nbt nbs ty

12:10 am

rururocks

iz 4

12:10 am

dizgrannie

yw

12:10 am

VolleymomDee

nbt nbs

12:10 am

cosdem

H's done.

12:11 am

cybernan

nbs

12:12 am

cosdem

phantom aromatize

12:12 am

dizgrannie

definately NBT/NBS

12:13 am

VolleymomDee

wtg diz

12:14 am

VolleymomDee

re 6

12:15 am

dizgrannie

sm 5/22

12:17 am

crayola

wh7

12:19 am

sammysmom

hey... i'm in the grid.. heh heh

12:19 am

VolleymomDee

ty cray for the wh7

12:20 am

cybernan

wh 7 x2

12:21 am

VolleymomDee

thx nan

12:23 am

rururocks

do you have to have your tighties on to get the wh7?

12:23 am

VolleymomDee

LOL

12:25 am

VolleymomDee

re 6 x 2

12:25 am

dizgrannie

don't forget the needlecase and plural

12:25 am

VolleymomDee

ty diz missed the pl grrr

12:26 am

dizgrannie

lol

12:26 am

VolleymomDee

I do that so often, you would think I would learn.

12:27 am

cybernan

don't think this is going to be easy

12:28 am

dizgrannie

derr just got hu 4 for my last H

12:28 am

VolleymomDee

wtg diz... I tend to agree with you, nan

12:30 am

cybernan

100 down - enough for tonight

12:30 am

VolleymomDee

nite nan

12:30 am

cybernan

mi 6-7 is back

12:31 am

rururocks

am7

12:31 am

cybernan

never seem to have any problem finding that one ;)

12:31 am

VolleymomDee

ty nan ty ru

12:32 am

VolleymomDee

lol they are so yummy

12:34 am

rururocks

my development was detained by the ar 6

12:43 am

rururocks

os9

12:44 am

VolleymomDee

ma 6 and ma 7 (not the plural, but the most "state of" being"

12:45 am

VolleymomDee

re 6 x 3 so far

12:53 am

rururocks

fireforks

12:53 am

VolleymomDee

wtg ru!!!

12:54 am

Lizlin

Congrats ru, and hi all :)

12:54 am

VolleymomDee

hi liz

12:54 am

rururocks

<---heading to bed.. have an early day.

12:54 am

rururocks

night all

1:03 am

flosey

hi everyone

1:03 am

VolleymomDee

hi flosey!

1:03 am

Lizlin

Hi flosey :)

1:04 am

flosey

hi Dee and Liz

1:10 am

VolleymomDee

zi 5 and zi 6 plural

1:19 am

torgone

Thanks Dee .. Z zapped ..

1:20 am

VolleymomDee

wtg!!! down to 10 and hopelessly stuck... gonna have to list I think

1:26 am

flosey

has the 9 been called?

1:26 am

VolleymomDee

os 9/60

1:26 am

flosey

and, has anyone clued it?

1:27 am

dizgrannie

os 9

1:27 am

VolleymomDee

long extension of an os 4/4...

1:27 am

torgone

Containers for the burial of human bones ..

1:27 am

flosey

thanks Dee and diz, looking

1:28 am

VolleymomDee

yw ty tor didn't know what they were

1:30 am

flosey

thanks, found it, googled it

1:30 am

flosey

have never heard the word

1:30 am

VolleymomDee

neither had I

1:31 am

VolleymomDee

te 7 more weepy

1:32 am

VolleymomDee

fireworks

1:35 am

VolleymomDee

good luck all; lickety's list is up, flosey, in case you didn't see. See you at the flip!!!

1:35 am

flosey

thanks Dee, and WTG

1:36 am

flosey

sweet sleep

1:36 am

VolleymomDee

ty vm, same to you :)

1:36 am

flosey

ty

1:41 am

jillibus

Hello -- very late!

1:41 am

flosey

hi jilli

1:41 am

flosey

and congratulations, again

1:42 am

jillibus

thanks, flosey -- what a surprise!

1:43 am

jillibus

yay dee and hi

1:44 am

jillibus

scrolling bac I see ruru got lit up too -- wtg

1:45 am

jillibus

ach, typo time again -- bedtime too but I'll try a bit more.

1:45 am

flosey

it's going quite smoothly

1:46 am

flosey

darn, I just had to say that, now am stuck

1:46 am

jillibus

how many eads tonight, flosey?

1:46 am

jillibus

*heads

1:47 am

flosey

heads?

1:48 am

flosey

oh, sorry, very sleepy, only one tonight

1:48 am

flosey

has been only one for a while now

1:48 am

jillibus

how many heads working tonight, flosey? Or has Mr flosey crashed?

1:49 am

jillibus

I see you're on your own

1:49 am

flosey

he crashed very quickly tonight

1:49 am

flosey

just tea and off to bed

1:49 am

jillibus

I won't be staying long -- just trying for nbt

1:50 am

flosey

guess I've had it for a while, I forget to watch

1:50 am

jillibus

but that doesn't look easy

1:51 am

flosey

do you want a clue for the 9?

1:51 am

jillibus

sure!

1:51 am

flosey

it's a container for burial of bones

1:51 am

flosey

I googled it

1:52 am

jillibus

what does it start with?

1:52 am

flosey

oh, sorry, os

1:53 am

flosey

continuation of the os4 before it

1:55 am

jillibus

absolutely no idea what that might be (very sleepy)

1:55 am

flosey

just google the clue I gave, it comes up there

1:56 am

jillibus

ty

1:57 am

jillibus

got it eventually, but didn't realise you meant the plural

1:58 am

flosey

oh, sorry, don't remember if that was mentioned

1:59 am

flosey

no, just read back

1:59 am

flosey

yes, said containers

2:00 am

flosey

very sleepy too

2:00 am

flosey

in fact I think I fell asleep while playing a few hands tonight

2:00 am

Lizlin

Just a quick hi, flosey and jill - just popping in for a few minutes :)

2:00 am

flosey

hi Liz

2:00 am

jillibus

it's a container for burial of bones is what I saw at 1:51

2:01 am

jillibus

hi liz -- I'll be popping out when I get the iz4/9

2:01 am

flosey

the clue that was given to me, a bit earlier

2:01 am

jillibus

izar

2:02 am

Lizlin

Have you got the we 4, 7, 7 and 8, Jilli - it describes the way you are feeling!

2:02 am

jillibus

oops

2:02 am

flosey

you got it

2:02 am

Lizlin

Well, the we 4 doesn't but the others build from that!

2:03 am

jillibus

wow -- nbt/nbs! Thanks flosey and liz!

2:03 am

flosey

yw jilli

2:03 am

Lizlin

yw jilli :)

2:04 am

Lizlin

OK I'm off again - see you soon :)

2:04 am

jillibus

all that with a mere 29 words, and I'm heading for bed -- goodnight/evening all...*poof

2:04 am

Lizlin

Sleep well - pleasant dreams :) - to you too flosey :)

2:06 am

flosey

just took my cup to the kitchen, goodnight jilli, I'll be following soon

2:29 am

rubyfoo

g00d morning

2:31 am

flosey

good morning to you ruby

2:32 am

flosey

nice to see you

2:32 am

rubyfoo

hello flosey, have been in the game less because my computer was dying

2:32 am

flosey

2 to go, then I'm off to bed

2:32 am

rubyfoo

now i have a ew one, but can't find the punctuation

2:33 am

rubyfoo

(or type properly) but it's nice to see flosey the whiz kid

2:33 am

flosey

lol, once in a while, perhaps

2:33 am

flosey

a new computer, how nice ruby

2:33 am

flosey

you mean the keyboard isn't same as the old one?

2:34 am

rubyfoo

mine was old and increasingly sluggish, was driving me crazy

2:34 am

flosey

that would be frustrating

2:34 am

rubyfoo

this is a Fr keyboard and even tho he put qwerty underneath, I can't find most of the marks like arrows, et

2:35 am

flosey

ah, but you'll get use to it soon

2:36 am

flosey

qwerty?

2:36 am

rubyfoo

I shouldn't complain and new puppy is coing next week

2:36 am

flosey

lovely

2:37 am

rubyfoo

standard keyboard is caled qwerty

2:37 am

flosey

oh, have not heard the word before

2:38 am

rubyfoo

it's even accepted as a scrabble word

2:38 am

flosey

and my french/english dictionary is so old - pre computer agae

2:38 am

flosey

probably 30 years before computers

2:41 am

rubyfoo

I learned to type in 1956 on a royal manual typewriter with no letters on the keys

2:45 am

flosey

yes, all school typewriters had blank keys - you should have seen what I learned on, they were really old - took typing in grade 9, that would be just after WW11

2:45 am

flosey

WW2

2:45 am

flosey

the keys had little metal rims around them

2:46 am

rubyfoo

it was a blessing to have been forced to take typing as I worked my way through college taking typing jobs

2:46 am

flosey

yes, one son took advantage of a mother who could type his essays

2:47 am

rubyfoo

I knew boys like that haha

2:47 am

Jommie

Good morning! :)

2:47 am

rubyfoo

my so taught himself to type, tho not very well, by taking a course on his computer

2:47 am

flosey

the other son took typing and did his own - that was when computers just came in and he knew right away what he wanted to - and did it

2:47 am

rubyfoo

hi jommie

2:48 am

flosey

good morning Jommie

2:48 am

rubyfoo

how old are your sons (no question mark)

2:48 am

Jommie

Hi Ruby, hi Flosey :).

2:48 am

rubyfoo

maze

2:48 am

rubyfoo

whoops, sorry

2:48 am

flosey

one will be 50 this year, the second one just turned 48

2:50 am

rubyfoo

mine will be 50 also

2:50 am

flosey

we wanted 4, so had them close, 1963, 65, 67 and 68

2:50 am

rubyfoo

I just have one

2:51 am

flosey

2 of ours don't have children, the other 2 have one each

2:51 am

Jommie

I saw that you were talking about typing and keyboards. My boyfriend works in the computer business and a few weeks ago he had to give a new computer and a new keyboard to a man from Spain. The man totally freaked out because he couldn't find the Ã±-key. He kept on repeating: where's the Ã±? Where's the Ã±? LOL

2:52 am

flosey

wow, that would be very frustrating

2:54 am

Jommie

Yes, especially because my boyfriend didn't understand what the man was talking about initially :).

2:55 am

flosey

oh, wow, hubby and I took a year of spanish when we were travelling there - nothing remains!

2:56 am

flosey

if you don't use it, you lose it

2:56 am

flosey

and while there, they wanted to learn English

2:56 am

Jommie

I know what you mean. I took French classes when I was at school, but I don't remember much of it either.

2:58 am

flosey

well folks, just got fireworks, last word sa6/21

2:58 am

Jommie

I'm from the Netherlands and it's easier to learn English, because that language is all around you.

2:59 am

Jommie

Good job, flosey! Did you also manage to finish the large grid on sunday? It took me several hours to complete it.

2:59 am

rubyfoo

yqy. the plumber just arrived

2:59 am

flosey

oh, interesting, have you met Sprite? (babbler)

2:59 am

rubyfoo

my kitchen sink is like a fountain at the moment

3:00 am

flosey

no, gave up on it but I did finish the 744 - several months ago now

3:00 am

rubyfoo

yes, now we have two nedrelandaises

3:00 am

flosey

oh ruby, hope it isn't filling your kitchen? Drains working ok?

3:01 am

Jommie

Yes, I've met Sprite once, but must of the time I'm playing babble without chatting.

3:01 am

rubyfoo

I can't imagine finishing those huge ones, but at least they're fun for the tyros ike me

3:02 am

rubyfoo

it's been increasingly broken over the past couple of weeks. sometimes it squirts me in the face

3:02 am

flosey

I was just determined with that one, and we were helping each other, was fun - don't think I'd try another one like that though

3:02 am

rubyfoo

fortunately the kitche floor is all tile and I try to keep upp with the water

3:02 am

flosey

well Jommie, nice to meet you, hope to see you again

3:02 am

flosey

and now I must be off to bed

3:03 am

flosey

just after 1: am

3:03 am

flosey

goodnight all

3:03 am

Jommie

Unfortunately I wasn't here yet during the 744 grid. I managed to finish it because there was a list in someones profile. Otherwise it would have been impossible.

3:03 am

rubyfoo

sweet dreams, flosey

3:03 am

flosey

thanks ruby, hugs

3:03 am

Jommie

Nice to have met you too, flosey, and good night!

3:04 am

rubyfoo

how many languages do you hae, jommie

3:04 am

Jommie

Oh no, ruby, it's not a nice thing to have water all over the place. I hope you can fix it soon!

3:04 am

rubyfoo

I have no puctuation to speak of

3:04 am

rubyfoo

hae

3:05 am

Jommie

I speak Dutch, English and a bit of German. And you?

3:05 am

rubyfoo

plumber is working and I', hiding in the studio

3:05 am

rubyfoo

just English and French

3:05 am

rubyfoo

my typing is awful on my new keyboard, so forgive the typos

3:07 am

Jommie

Oh, that's ok, if you forgive me my grammatical mistakes :).

3:08 am

rubyfoo

the plumber just cut off the water and keeps yelling for me

3:08 am

rubyfoo

husband is useless

3:08 am

rubyfoo

he refuses to speak French

3:09 am

Jommie

That sounds like a lot of stress! Why does he refuse to speak French?

3:10 am

rubyfoo

because he doesn't want to make mistakes (we're american) My feeling is that I'd rather communicate and mistakes be damned

3:11 am

Jommie

I agree with you completely! In my experience people really appreciate it when you are trying to speak their language. And they will forgive you your mistakes.

3:12 am

rubyfoo

exactlyenglish, so they are very helpful and we live in small village and nobody speaks

3:13 am

rubyfoo

English was supposed to come at the end, but if I touch the wrong key, my sentences get rearranged

3:13 am

Jommie

It would be a lot easier for your hubby if he would speak French, because now he has to rely on you all the time to do the talking.

3:15 am

rubyfoo

unfortunately, he likes having me do the talking

3:15 am

Jommie

Oops, new keyboards can be quite frustrating sometimes. But I never realised that there are so many different keyboards. Do you also have a key for the Ã§?

3:15 am

rubyfoo

it's a french keyboard but with English underneath

3:15 am

rubyfoo

very weird to type

3:16 am

Jommie

But what if you're not around to do the talking?

3:17 am

Jommie

That sounds very weird indeed :). I can imagine your confusion and I hope you will get used to your new keyboard soon!

3:17 am

rubyfoo

he just sits there. won\t even answer the phone.

3:17 am

rubyfoo

When sprite visited us, he spoke with her in English, of course, one of the rare occasions

3:17 am

Jommie

Oh no, that's very frustrating!

3:19 am

rubyfoo

half and must make husband his apero

3:19 am

rubyfoo

very nice to meet you, jommie

3:19 am

Jommie

Oh, how nice that Sprite visited you.

3:20 am

Jommie

It's very nice to meet you too, Ruby! Good luck with the sink and I hope to speak to you soon.

3:21 am

Jommie

Did you meet Sprite on babble or did you already know each other?

3:21 am

medusa

hi all

3:22 am

Jommie

Hi Medusa!

3:23 am

medusa

hey jommie

3:23 am

Jommie

How is the weather at your place? Spring is in the air in the Netherlands and the sun is shining :).

3:27 am

medusa

it is very sunny here today. :)

3:28 am

Jommie

Nice! I like the spring, because the flowers in our garden start to grow again (unfortunately, so do the weeds ;)).

3:31 am

medusa

lol. i love winter.

3:32 am

Jommie

I think that every season has it's charms, because I love snow as well :).

3:32 am

medusa

this is true. i dont lie the heat though

3:34 am

ursh

hello all - back for 43

3:35 am

Jommie

Oh no, me neither! Last summer, we had a heat wave and it was approximately 26 degrees celsius in our bedroom and 30 degrees in our living room...

3:37 am

ursh

lol Jommie 26 to 35 C is a normal summer day for us

3:37 am

medusa

ugh!!!!!!!!

3:43 am

Jommie

Hi ursh! Wow, 26 to 35 C on a normal summer day...!

3:44 am

Jommie

When it's 35c in the Netherlands, the air is so thick that you can hardly breathe.

3:45 am

ursh

35 is often on a very hot day - but 26 - 28 is quite normal for summer

3:46 am

Jommie

But do you have a cool spot where you can sit down on a hot day?

3:47 am

ursh

Jommie - you either get in the pool or go to an air conditioned room

3:48 am

lynxxx

we have just started another run of 30+ days, looks like another record.

3:49 am

Jommie

I like a nice dive in the pool on a hot day :). We

3:49 am

Jommie

We've only got a small, inflatable 'swimming pool', LOL

3:49 am

medusa

nbs nbt

3:51 am

Jommie

Wow Lynxxx, that's very hot as well :(. What do the forecasts look like? Is it going to be cooler anytime soon?

3:51 am

Jommie

Lol, there's a Greek god in the grid today ;).

3:52 am

lynxxx

not for about 8 days but at least it looks like it will cool down at night so that makes it bearable

3:54 am

Jommie

I understand completely! When it's hot at night, you can't sleep and when you're tired, it's even harder to cope with the heat.

3:54 am

lynxxx

...and we have water in the dams so no restrictions which makes life easier.

3:55 am

Jommie

Sometimes, when it's very warm, I sleep in a wet t-shirt and that cools me off a little bit.

3:57 am

Jommie

I'm glad to hear that. We've hardly ever had restrictions in the Netherlands when it comes to water usage, but I can imagine that it makes life a little less easier.

4:13 am

lynxxx

100 down - enough for tonight - bye all

4:14 am

medusa

ttfn lyn. sleep well

4:14 am

Jommie

Bye lyn, sleep well!

4:56 am

medusa

fireworks

4:57 am

Jommie

Good job, medusa!!

4:57 am

medusa

thanks jommie.

4:57 am

medusa

any help needed before i go?

4:57 am

sprite

good afternoon all

4:58 am

Jommie

Yes, have you got a hint for ae 4? I can't find it.

4:58 am

Jommie

Hi sprite, goedemorgen ;). How are you

4:58 am

Jommie

?

4:59 am

grannyrose

jommie, go left, then diagonal right, down, then sideways

4:59 am

sprite

hi Jommie, niet verkeerd, kat in het bakkie hier. En jij?

4:59 am

grannyrose

use a in 4th row, 2nd column

5:02 am

sprite

hi rose *hugs*

5:02 am

grannyrose

hey spritey

5:03 am

Jommie

Sprite: hier is alles ook goed. Het zonnetje schijnt heerlijk! (translation for those who don't speak Dutch: everything is ok and the sun is shining ;)).

5:03 am

Jommie

Thanks grannyrose!

5:04 am

sprite

Lovely weather here today as well.

5:05 am

Jommie

I kept staring at the a in the top row :).

5:05 am

Jommie

Sprite: spring has finally arrived :). Where do you live?

5:05 am

sprite

where in holland do you live, Jommie?

5:05 am

grannyrose

ditto here, jommie, was very confused for a bit

5:06 am

Jommie

Lol, we asked each other the same question at the same time :). I live in Zwolle, and you?

5:06 am

sprite

I am in Zaanstad, near Amsterdam

5:06 am

Jommie

Grannyrose: yes, the grid can be very confusing sometimes :).

5:07 am

medusa

sorry jommie. i seem to be a magnet for my cats and did not see! they are all over me at the mo!

5:07 am

Jommie

I've never been to Zaanstad. Is it a nice place to live?

5:08 am

sprite

yes, it is nice here. Zaansche Schans om de hoek.

5:08 am

Jommie

Lol medusa. My cats do that all the time. How many cats do you own? I have 3: 1 male and 2 females. And they're all very hairy and cuddly :).

5:11 am

Jommie

I've never been to the Zaansche Schans as well, but I'd like to go there one day. My boyfriend got 2 free tickets for the Rijksmuseum as a Christmas present from his boss, so we may combine the Rijksmuseum and a visit to the Zaansche Schans :).

5:11 am

sprite

it is worth it.

5:13 am

Jommie

Thanks Sprite, I will remember it :). My grandparents used to live in Beverwijk, but they passed away years ago, so I hardly ever go there anymore.

5:14 am

Jommie

We may even pay a visit to the beach. It is so far away now.

5:14 am

sprite

nothing is far away in the netherlands

5:15 am

grannyrose

sprite. my local doctor decided that taking NSAIDS ad/or inflammatory drugs was contra-indicated with my cardiac history. so she refused to give me a script for them. that was 2 weeks ago. since then have been slowly going backwards. at the moment can barely walk due to the pain in my hips and lower back.

5:16 am

sprite

damn rose! That is awful. Any chance your specialist can help out?

5:17 am

grannyrose

have an appointment with my cardiologist on tuesday. will ask him why i cannot have these drugs,\.if he says no reason, well i'm just gonna demand a script then and there.

5:17 am

sprite

good for you. As for your local doctor: she should be looking into other meds if she thinks these are not good for you. Just refusing is stupid.

5:18 am

Jommie

Oh no rose, that's very awful. I hope you and your cardiologist can work something out.

5:18 am

Jommie

Local doctors don't always see 'the whole picture'.

5:20 am

Jommie

Sprite: you're right; everything in the Netherlands is nearby (at least: compared to other countries ;)).

5:20 am

grannyrose

*giggle* ni9ce to see you both so indignant on my behalf. maybe i should "walk" into to see her, the way i am. she was so sure that extra strength paracetamol was the answer. could have told her that was not the case.

5:21 am

sprite

no way paracetamol will do the trick for you. Your pain is deeper than paracetamol will reach. Yes, by all means, go to her and let her see what she is creating. Tell her to find an alternative.

5:22 am

Jommie

Rose, that's not such a bad idea ;). That way she can see for herself that you're not doing well without your medication.

5:22 am

grannyrose

and work has decided to start me on 9 hour shifts...needless to say by about 7 hours i am pretty much hobbling around, with my butt stuck out at a strange angle. and i do have to increase my hours in order to keep my job.

5:22 am

Jommie

What kind of job do you do, Rose?

5:23 am

grannyrose

*sob* i was cruising on the anti-inflammatories. jommie, i am a recovery room nurse. not much of an opportunity to sit down.

5:25 am

sprite

don't accept the decision, rose. Seriously. You cannot work with that much pain, you will ruin everything you gained with the operations.

5:25 am

Jommie

Well, I should definitely make a new appointment with your local doctor then, when your health and your job are at stake.

5:26 am

sprite

kind of between a rock and a hard place, aren't you, rose? 9-hour shifts are killing.

5:26 am

grannyrose

i know, spritey. it's so unfair. i was doing so well until the anti-inflams were taken away. in tasmania i was rock climbing for goodness sake!!

5:27 am

sprite

you need them back and pronto

5:27 am

grannyrose

not mention 2 hour hikes and 3-4 hours walfs

5:27 am

Jommie

I totally agree with sprite.

5:27 am

grannyrose

*walks*

5:29 am

grannyrose

wells the course i just did last week on clinical pharmicology, did indicate that anti-inflamms and NSAIDS are contra-indicated in a patient with cardiac failure...which i do not have.

5:29 am

Jommie

Rose, is there any way you can contact your cardiologist a bit sooner and ask him if it can do any harm to take those meds? That way, you may not have to wait untill tuesday. And it may make it easier to get your meds back.

5:30 am

sprite

looks lilke the lady needs to check her facts

5:31 am

grannyrose

you know, jommie...i can...i have his direct phone number. i promise to do it tomorrow, thanx for reminding me.

5:31 am

sprite

good idea. If your cardiologist does not object, why should the local doctor.

5:33 am

grannyrose

true sprite, and over here, if it is an usual medication, the pharmacists will dispense it with a script owing.

5:33 am

Jommie

Your welcome, Rose. And if the local doctor still refuses, maybe your cardiologist can give you your prescription.

5:34 am

sprite

even better. Take good care of yourself.

5:34 am

grannyrose

jommie, that's what i had planned

5:34 am

sprite

they can fax a prescription as well

5:34 am

grannyrose

sorry to interrupt your day/night, you two. i do appreciate your input.

5:35 am

sprite

you didn't interrupt anything. Silly rose.

5:35 am

grannyrose

oh, yeah, sprite. must grab the pharmacists fax before i ring the cardiologist.

5:35 am

Jommie

That's ok Rose, you're not interrupting my day. I'm glad I can help out.

5:36 am

grannyrose

loves ya spritey. and jommie? do so hope we can become friends.

5:36 am

sprite

there. With a bit of luck you will have your meds back tomorrow. *hugs* And please interrupt my day or night whenever you want. ;)

5:37 am

sprite

on a side note: th4 is a decidedly unfriendly grid.

5:38 am

Jommie

Rose, I hope we can become friends too!

5:38 am

grannyrose

oh, okay...just when is your 1am? will do my best to wake you up then...*giggle*

5:38 am

Jommie

Lol :)

5:38 am

grannyrose

spritey, thought it waqs me....some words are quite obscure. may i help you?

5:38 am

sprite

let's see... 12 hours and 20 minutes from now, rose :D

5:39 am

sprite

still need 58, rose... thanks for the offer though.

5:40 am

Jommie

2 of the 3 th words are actually very common, but they are not so easy to spot.

5:40 am

sprite

it is too vowelly by half

5:42 am

Jommie

Words with lots of consonants are also very hard to spot.

5:42 am

sprite

ambivalence... singing lesson got just cancelled, teacher is ill... which I hate because I really love the lessons... but am ill myself... so it is a bit of a blessing in disguise

5:43 am

sprite

I am good with consonants. Well, except the darn K.

5:43 am

Jommie

A few weeks ago, there was a grid that contained the word 'shhh' :).

5:44 am

Jommie

Yeah, the k is not an easy one. I love the q :).

5:44 am

sprite

brrr, psst, oink :)

5:45 am

sprite

and, of course, crwth and cwns

5:45 am

Jommie

Oh no, too bad your singing lesson got cancelled. Have you got a cold or something? Lots of people are ill in my environment as well.

5:45 am

grannyrose

lol, can tell you both a combination of bourbon and valium(daizepam) is a great analgesiac......and before you both panic, don is here with me.

5:46 am

sprite

seems to be a weird flu. My son had it last week. Makes you intensely sleepy. Not much of a fever though.

5:46 am

Jommie

Lol, yeah, those are very weird words :).

5:46 am

grannyrose

*diazepam*

5:46 am

sprite

hehehe rose :) Good girl. Be nice to yourself. Don can carry you to bed.

5:47 am

Jommie

Wow, diazepam can be very heavy stuff ;). I'm glad Don is with you :).

5:47 am

grannyrose

yeah, spritey. please get well soon, don't like the thought of my spritey not well. :(

5:48 am

grannyrose

jommie, only 2mgs....not too heavy

5:48 am

sprite

you are so sweet :) Thanks, and don't worry, this is minor. Couple of days and I'll be good as new.

5:48 am

Jommie

That sounds like a weird flu indeed. I was diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrom a few months ago, so I know what it's like to feel tired all the time. I hope you will recover soon!

5:48 am

sprite

I will, thanks

5:50 am

grannyrose

ah ha!!! jommie, look up the symptoms of fibromyalgia. then go and see an endocrinologist to have it confirmed. i had a terrible shock when i was diagnosed. but also very relieved.

5:50 am

Jommie

Rose, 2 mgs is ok I guess :).

5:51 am

Jommie

Thanks Rose, I will!

5:51 am

Jommie

They diagnosed me so quickly! They did a few blood tests and my internist said that my blood patterns were normal and that it had to be chronic fatigue syndrom. Very weird...

5:52 am

Jommie

When were you diagnosed with fibromyalgia?

5:52 am

grannyrose

once you have it confirmed, email me. i have found a marvellous preparation from USA which has changed my life, mostly.

5:53 am

Jommie

Oh, that's so nice of you, thanks! I will email you as soon as I have it confirmed.

5:53 am

grannyrose

i was diagnosed, formally 5 yeears ago...until then my doctor thought i was a manic depressive.

5:54 am

Jommie

My vitamin B12 levels were also a bit low, but not low enough, according to the medical standards.

5:54 am

Lizlin

Hi Rose, Jommie and Sprite - and anyone else :)

5:54 am

grannyrose

yeah, and so will your vitD levels be low.

5:54 am

sprite

rose, were you the one who told me about a high amount of blood iron?

5:54 am

Jommie

Wow, that sounds very frustrating! My doctors told me over and over again that my fatigue was mental and not fysical.

5:54 am

grannyrose

{{{liz}}}

5:54 am

sprite

hiya Liz :)

5:56 am

Jommie

Yep, my vit d levels were very low. I started taking supplements a few months ago and my levels have risen to just above 60, which is high enough according to Dutch standards, but not according to international standards.

5:56 am

grannyrose

jommie, i am so with you. it's so difficult...until you find a physician who understands what you are experiencing. i really encourage you to find an endocrinologist.

5:56 am

Jommie

(before I took the supplements, my vit d level was 29)

5:56 am

grannyrose

yes, sptitey

5:57 am

grannyrose

oh, dear. *spritey*

5:57 am

sprite

rose, how was it called again? I forgot and cannot find it.
(had it bookmarked but lost it in the crash)

5:58 am

Jommie

I'm so glad that you understand, Rose. It is so frustrating when people don't believe you. I even got into therapy and I kept saying that I was so tired, but they said: just hang on, things will get better, you just have to 'kick yourself in the butt'. Well, that didn't work at all, but I guess I don't have to tell you that ;).

5:58 am

grannyrose

gaisbok syndrome....a familial form of polycythemia

5:58 am

Jommie

Hi Liz!

5:58 am

sprite

thanks :)

5:59 am

grannyrose

jommie, my email is in my profile...talk to me.

5:59 am

Lizlin

Hi - seeing you talking like this - hope you're all OK!

6:00 am

Jommie

Thanks Rose, I will send you an email :).

6:00 am

Jommie

Thanks Liz :).

6:00 am

grannyrose

ahhh, liz.....we will survive....you know that. LOL

6:00 am

Lizlin

Glad to hear it :)

6:01 am

sprite

no worries, Liz :)

6:01 am

grannyrose

jommie, because of the time difference, it may be not immediately. but i will answer. :)

6:02 am

Lizlin

Rose, when do your clocks change?

6:02 am

grannyrose

liz, usually the last weekend of march....

6:03 am

sprite

those sm words are odd

6:03 am

Lizlin

OK - helpful to know, cos ours don't!

6:03 am

Lizlin

Don't have any sm words yet!

6:03 am

Jommie

Thanks Rose. And don't worry about answering immediately ;).

6:03 am

Lizlin

Missing 2 x z as well! Amongst many others!

6:03 am

sprite

you will, Liz. And you will agree... especially the last one ;)

6:04 am

Jommie

Do you need any hints on the sm-words?

6:04 am

Lizlin

Lied! Have an sm word now! Just took a stab in the dark and found one!

6:04 am

Jommie

I found them. It was was a lucky shot :).

6:04 am

Lizlin

No thanks, I'm fine for the moment! Still have 61 words to find!

6:05 am

sprite

fireflies. Tsk. Tricky little grid today.

6:05 am

Lizlin

Have 2nd one now = also guessed but would normally have ended that word with a y!

6:05 am

Lizlin

Congrats sprite :)

6:06 am

Jommie

Good job, Sprite!

6:06 am

Lizlin

How many sm words are there?

6:06 am

grannyrose

WTG SPRITE!!!!

6:06 am

Jommie

there are 2 sm words

6:07 am

Lizlin

ty - so you promoted me to find both!!!

6:07 am

Lizlin

prompted!

6:07 am

Jommie

You're welcome ;).

6:08 am

Jommie

I'm so glad to have Lickety as a backup :).

6:08 am

sprite

guess I better go back to bed. Sleep some more :)

6:08 am

Jommie

And a good dictionary for those last, difficult words ;).

6:08 am

grannyrose

darn!!! lured into a false sense of security. just got up to get a drink....yelped rather loudly...

6:08 am

Lizlin

Sleep well sprite - feel better :)

6:09 am

Lizlin

Just opened lickety - adding new words but not really using the list just yet!

6:09 am

grannyrose

night, my friend. sleep well, and awake refreshed

6:09 am

Lizlin

Think I'll use the list very soon though!

6:09 am

Jommie

Sleep well sprite. Maybe you can lie in the sun (although it is not so warm outside).

6:09 am

Lizlin

How did your presentation go, Rose?

6:10 am

grannyrose

ahhhh, great liz. i even taught the nurse educator a couple of new things. * grin*

6:10 am

Jommie

Oh no Rose! Maybe Don can get you your drink, so that you don't have to stand up. It is terrible to be in pain :(.

6:11 am

Lizlin

Grin, indeed. Glad it went well - I know you were concerned!

6:11 am

Jommie

Liz, I try to get 50 % of the words before I use the list, but sometimes I just don't see it anymore :).

6:11 am

Lizlin

Oh Rose! In pain again?!

6:11 am

grannyrose

let's just say i know my onions....

6:12 am

grannyrose

jommie, bed-time looms....

6:12 am

Lizlin

Me too, Jommie - I put off listing as long as possible - but also try for at least 50 % first.

6:12 am

Lizlin

Hope you also feel better in the morning Rose :)

6:13 am

grannyrose

liz, my local doctor thought it wise to cease all my NSAIDS and anti-inflammatories....hips and lower back complaining.

6:14 am

Lizlin

Hmmm! As a nurse, what was your feeling about this? Then next as a patient - though perhaps it should be patient first!

6:14 am

grannyrose

like liz....i try to get thriugh the grid by achieving at least 50% on all tiles

6:15 am

Lizlin

I always think of you as one of the fast finishers, Rose.

6:15 am

Jommie

Lol, I had to look op 'I know my onions'. I didn't know the saying. But now I know :).

6:16 am

Lizlin

I've 3 more to find to reach 100 - I'd like to do that before I give up for the night!

6:17 am

grannyrose

liz. * love the way you think" as a nurse...doctor's thoughts weere of some concern....i do have a cardiac history, but not of failure....as a nurse...well to be truthful...i was going wtf....pain is pain....and paracetamol doesn't cut it.

6:17 am

Jommie

I always start off with the grid in a rather chaotic way, finding whatever word I can find. After that, I'm approaching the grid a bit more systematic and after that, I will open lickety's clues. And when all else fails, I will use a dictionary ;).

6:17 am

Lizlin

Get it sorted is my opinion! You don't need to live in pain!

6:18 am

grannyrose

jommie, can you find the 'enable' list. this is what dr god uses

6:18 am

Jommie

Rose, as a nurse, you have more knowledge about paid and medication than any other patient. That must be so frustrating.

6:19 am

Lizlin

I also use a dictionary in the end but it still feels a bit like cheating to me! I used it a lot in the 506 grid this week and felt unsatisfied at the end even though I finished the grid.

6:19 am

Lizlin

I've never seen an enable list - do you just google it?

6:19 am

grannyrose

yup, i did, liz

6:19 am

Lizlin

Good

6:20 am

Jommie

I've never seen an enable list either. I use 'morewords.com' as a dictionary. I agree that it feels a bit like cheating, but it helps me finishing the grid :).

6:20 am

grannyrose

then i created a short cut. and when i need it, i just load it up.

6:21 am

Lizlin

Me too Jommie - Jilli introduced me to morewords

6:21 am

grannyrose

jommie, just 'google' it...or whichever search engine you use.

6:22 am

Lizlin

OK - found it and it's now in my downloads! Thanks!

6:23 am

Jommie

Lol, I found a link to a forum called 'babblers anonymous' ;).

6:23 am

grannyrose

jommie...even so....what my cardiologist recommends is the way i go...

6:24 am

grannyrose

yay, liz...may your babbling be smooth sailing from now on

6:24 am

Lizlin

OK - that's my 100 down - giving up for tonight. 55 for tomorrow - sleep well Rose and enjoy your day Jommie. As ever, nice chatting. Hugs to you both :)

6:25 am

grannyrose

night, liz. you too, hun. see you tomorrow

6:26 am

Jommie

I used morewords for another word game that I play. It is called 'word bubbles' and the aim is to make as many words as possible in 2 minutes, using the same 3 letters at the beginning of the word. I use morewords to study on the more difficult combinations ;).

6:26 am

Jommie

Good night liz, and hugs to you too!

6:27 am

grannyrose

good for you, jommie. i really need to say goodnight....see tomorrow, maybe.have a good day.

6:28 am

Jommie

Good night Rose, and I hope you will have your meds back tomorrow!

6:29 am

grannyrose

*poof*

6:29 am

Jommie

Hopefully you can catch some sleep.

6:54 am

hokie carla

hello!

6:55 am

Jommie

Hi hokie carla!

6:58 am

crosshair

good morning my babble friends:)) my first 2 words are a pair of we 7/44,s;) hope that bodes well for the rest of this nice looking grid;))

6:58 am

Jommie

Good morning crosshair!

6:58 am

Jommie

That's a good way to get started :).

6:58 am

crosshair

howdy jommie

6:58 am

ivesy3

first ma 5/12 plz

6:59 am

Anniebrook

hello hello

6:59 am

ivesy3

nvm just got it ty

7:00 am

crosshair

morning annie

7:00 am

Jommie

Hi ives, Hi Annie

7:00 am

Anniebrook

Hi Jommie :)

7:00 am

Jommie

There are some tricky words in this grid :)

7:00 am

Anniebrook

morning, crossy

7:01 am

Anniebrook

I just started and when I read crossy's post I saw the we8

7:01 am

Anniebrook

That gave me one of the we7's

7:01 am

ivesy3

good morning all..

7:01 am

Jommie

It's always so rewarding to find long words :).

7:03 am

crosshair

made me tired finding those three we words;)))

7:03 am

Anniebrook

It sure is.

7:03 am

Jommie

Lol, crosshair :).

7:03 am

Anniebrook

Thanks! crossy

7:04 am

Jommie

There is also a 9 letter word in the grid.

7:04 am

hokie carla

I managed to find the 8 all by myself. ;-)

7:04 am

Anniebrook

wtg, hokie

7:04 am

crosshair

yaaa for hokie!

7:05 am

Jommie

Good job, hokie!

7:05 am

ivesy3

the nine is a os word

7:05 am

crosshair

does it have to do with a burial box

7:06 am

crosshair

like in old jewish burials?

7:06 am

Jommie

It has something to do with bones :).

7:06 am

crosshair

thought so,now just to figure out the elongated version of it

7:06 am

ivesy3

yes crossy it does

7:07 am

hokie carla

I think oarist should be a word. One who uses oars.

7:07 am

Anniebrook

sounds good to me, hokie

7:07 am

crosshair

ty ivesy.got it

7:08 am

crosshair

watched a show once on where they though they found the one that contained the bones of jesus and they said that word about a million times and i never forgot it after that

7:08 am

BzznBea

Thank you for the os9

7:08 am

ivesy3

yw

7:10 am

Jommie

Crosshair: yeah, repeating words several times is a good way to remember them. It also works with commercials, LOL.

7:10 am

hokie carla

I'm not seeing it. Can anyone spare another clue?

7:10 am

BzznBea

Wish I had the ingredients for a mi6

7:10 am

hokie carla

or mi7 for all of us

7:11 am

crosshair

ty bzz

7:11 am

BzznBea

We can put those in the pb.

7:11 am

crosshair

and ty hokie

7:11 am

Jommie

Lol, hokie, I just learned something new. I thought mi7 was only a type of flower :).

7:12 am

hokie carla

the peanut butter? what is pb?

7:12 am

BzznBea

Penalty box

7:13 am

Anniebrook

You go to the penalty box when you use a word that is in the grid

7:13 am

crosshair

mi7 are almost a version of what we used to call shanties where we used to mix beer and gingerale

7:13 am

hokie carla

oh, what was the penalty? we didn't actually use it.

7:14 am

BzznBea

Beer and gingerale? I've mixed beer and lemonade for a shandy.

7:14 am

Anniebrook

BZZ was speaking about puttting mi7 in the penalty box. We have the box well stocked with good food and drink. It is a place of wonder.

7:15 am

hokie carla

ah, so we weren't going, just putting those in. ;-)

7:15 am

Anniebrook

That's right. Only the offender goes to the box.

7:15 am

Jommie

And do all those food and drinks have nice ar 6/21? :)

7:16 am

hokie carla

why should the offender get such benefits?

7:16 am

Anniebrook

thanks, jommie

7:16 am

Jommie

You're welcome Annie ;).

7:16 am

Anniebrook

Because Babblers are good nice folks

7:17 am

hokie carla

:-)

7:18 am

lbdawger

gm, everyone! clue for the om5?

7:18 am

Anniebrook

hi dawg, dont have it, still working on the top

7:18 am

Jommie

You can also put an s 4 word in the penalty box :).

7:19 am

hokie carla

sorry, don't have it either.

7:19 am

hokie carla

I want to make roam so bad, I just keep trying it.

7:20 am

Jommie

I haven't got it either.

7:20 am

BzznBea

Om - use the two little words in a similie.

7:20 am

Jommie

Hokie, maybe we can rearrange the tiles in the grid a little bit, so that you can make 'roam' :)

7:22 am

Anniebrook

Jommie, are you new to Babble?

7:22 am

lbdawger

ty, bzzz. found it.

7:23 am

Jommie

Annie: I have been around for a little while (a month or so), but I don't chat very often.

7:23 am

Anniebrook

well then, Welcome to Babbleland, Jommie

7:24 am

Jommie

Thanks, Annie :).

7:24 am

hokie carla

hmm, I just discovered both spellings of the t4 ruler. not that they were hard, they were just hiding from me.

7:24 am

Jommie

So have you been a babbler for long, Annie?

7:25 am

BzznBea

Time for me to bzz...pfft!

7:25 am

Anniebrook

jommie, for ages

7:25 am

Anniebrook

bye Bzzn

7:25 am

Jommie

Bye bzzn.

7:26 am

Jommie

It's a great nice game and the people are very nice here.

7:27 am

crosshair

"ok,back form feeding my bosses aka the kitties

7:27 am

lbdawger

Jommie, you fit right in. welcome

7:27 am

lbdawger

bye bzz, hagd

7:27 am

hokie carla

apparently I have been here since Aug. '06, though it's been off & on.

7:27 am

crosshair

babble is unique on the net jommie and well worth the 11 bux for a lifetime subscription

7:27 am

Jommie

And it is a big advantage to have enough time to find all the words. All those 2 minute games can be a bit stressful at times :).

7:27 am

Jommie

Thanks lbdawger!

7:28 am

crosshair

yes,babble can be done at your own pace

7:28 am

Jommie

Wow, I've only been a member since the 28th of january (i just looked it up)

7:28 am

Jommie

Crosshair, my kitties are asleep at the moment :).

7:29 am

Jommie

I haven't subscribed just yet, Crosshair, but it will be my birthday in a few months, so it would be a nice present ;).

7:30 am

crosshair

my kitties MUST have breakfast then they fight for a hour or so then sleep the morning and part of the afternoon away,then it is playtime till bed.in summer 2 of the are harnessed and go for walkies twice a day as well

7:31 am

crosshair

it is well worth it jommie

7:31 am

bichon

hi folks, stats for the first s in the last column, pls

7:31 am

lbdawger

am7?

7:32 am

lbdawger

su4/5, bichon

7:32 am

bichon

ty dawg

7:32 am

crosshair

am 7/32= a french person good at the art of love

7:32 am

crosshair

though missing a u imho

7:32 am

bichon

ty crossy for the am

7:32 am

crosshair

more like a maker of wearable sheilding for knights

7:33 am

Jommie

Lol, our kitties love breakfast as well. We tried to take them for a walk when they were smaller, but they freaked out every time and eventually we gave up. They like to go into the garden every now and then, but when they hear a loud noise, they come running back inside :).

7:33 am

lbdawger

ty, crossy.

7:34 am

crosshair

our 5 year old male bombay cat loves to scratch at trees when on walkies

7:35 am

Jommie

Crosshair: do you know the television program 'Must love cats'? A while ago, I saw an episode that featured a kitty that purred as loud as a vacuum cleaner!

7:35 am

crosshair

we do.wife loves the show

7:35 am

lbdawger

tadone! finito! ty for the clues

7:35 am

crosshair

yaaa for lbd!!

7:35 am

Anniebrook

YAY for dawg !!!!

7:35 am

Jommie

Lol, when he scratches at trees, it's less likely that he scratches your furniture :).

7:36 am

bichon

woot dawg

7:36 am

Jommie

Good job lbd!

7:37 am

crosshair

indeed,jommie,though we have a cat "tree" inside as well with pillars wrapped in coarse rope and 3 or 4 platforms.if you do not give then toys they will make themselves toys out of your stuff;)

7:37 am

Anniebrook

name that proper noun---one of the Gods

7:37 am

crosshair

zeuss

7:37 am

Anniebrook

ding ding ding!

7:37 am

Jommie

I also love to watch 'my cat from hell'. And I always hope that it won't give my cats any ideas, lol.

7:37 am

crosshair

that lightening bolt fella

7:39 am

Jommie

We also have several cat trees and platforms. And lots of toy mouses to play with. They love it! And we also have a pen with a laser light in it. They love to chase it, lol.

7:39 am

Jommie

There is also an anachram of Zeus's wife in the grid ;).

7:40 am

crosshair

phantom "armories"

7:42 am

crosshair

crossy hates vowel words:((

7:43 am

lbdawger

must be off for a bit. hagd/n, everyone!

7:43 am

crosshair

tc lbd

7:43 am

crosshair

hits

7:43 am

Anniebrook

bye dawg, have a very good day

7:43 am

crosshair

oops

7:43 am

smores

Good morning/evening everyone :)

7:43 am

hokie carla

I hate vowel words, too. Can't find that i.

7:43 am

Jommie

Bye lbd!

7:43 am

Jommie

Good morning smores!

7:43 am

smores

hi and bye dawg...enjoy your day :)

7:43 am

Anniebrook

me too

7:43 am

Jommie

Your name is in the grid today!

7:43 am

Anniebrook

hi smores :)

7:44 am

crosshair

howdy smores

7:44 am

hokie carla

good morning to you, too, smores

7:44 am

Jommie

hokie: it starts with iz.

7:44 am

zoozzoom

iz4

7:45 am

smores

I saw that Jommie :) But alas, Enable doesn't recognize me :(

7:45 am

hokie carla

TY both

7:45 am

Jommie

That's too bad, smores. I typed it in to see if it was a word or not :).

7:46 am

Jommie

You're welcome hokie.

7:46 am

crosshair

because your name is in the grid today,sm6,you get all day immunity from penalty box offenses:))))

7:46 am

smores

WooHoo :) thanks crossy

7:47 am

Jommie

That's a nice reward, crossy! :)

7:47 am

crosshair

once,only once,i had my name in a grid .it was funny however because not only was it in the grd,it was in the same grid with 3 different varriations,cross,crossy and crosshair

7:48 am

hokie carla

I think I've seen Carla once, not sure about Hokie.

7:48 am

smores

lol..cool crossy

7:49 am

Jommie

Lol, that's very cool, crossy!

7:49 am

Jommie

I've never seen Jommie in the grid.

7:49 am

smores

rose,erda and peri are in it quite frequently

7:49 am

crosshair

give it time,jommie.i have been here 5 years to see mine

7:50 am

crosshair

5 years this june:)))

7:51 am

Mom

good morning everyone

7:51 am

Jommie

Lol, I'll be a bit more patient then :).

7:51 am

smores

nbt/nbs :)

7:51 am

Jommie

good morning, mom!

7:51 am

crosshair

ok,off to reset the eyes and see how many people i can irritate in fb.biab

7:52 am

Anniebrook

Hi ((Mom)) How is your hubby?

7:52 am

crosshair

((mom))..poink!

7:52 am

smores

Hi Mom :)

7:52 am

Mom

it will be 8 years for me come August.

7:52 am

smores

Bye for now crossy :)

7:52 am

Mom

Jommie, good morning

7:52 am

Mom

bye Crossy

7:52 am

Anniebrook

I went to My Account, do not see when I started

7:52 am

Mom

((Annie)) he is doing pretty good this morning. This afternoon we go and he gets his stitches out

7:53 am

Mom

you have to click on your icon in the chat, Annie

7:53 am

Anniebrook

Mom, That should be a relief for him

7:53 am

Anniebrook

thanks, Mom, will go look

7:53 am

Jommie

Wow, 8 years is also a very long time. When was babble created?

7:53 am

zoozzoom

April 8th 2006 for you, Annie.

7:53 am

Jommie

Mom, did your hubby have some kind of surgery?

7:54 am

smores

wow....long time

7:54 am

smores

I just started last September

7:54 am

zoozzoom

28th sorry.

7:55 am

smores

woohoo 6mo. coming up in a couple weeks LOL

7:55 am

Anniebrook

7 years, wow...it doesnt seem that long, must be having fun

7:56 am

Mom

hi ((Zoozzoom))

7:56 am

hokie carla

well, mine says '05. I think I've seen someone with '04, but maybe not. I thought I got in pretty early, but maybe that was just the Babble Pro.

7:56 am

Anniebrook

Hi zooz :)

7:56 am

Mom

Jommie, he had back surgery on the 20th of February

7:56 am

zoozzoom

You are all babble addicts...i could give this up right now if i wanted :-)

7:56 am

Jommie

Hi zooz.

7:56 am

Mom

I think it was in 04 or late 03 when babble arrived

7:57 am

Mom

hi hokie

7:57 am

Judi

Hiyas, kiddos!

7:57 am

Mom

Zooz, but you don't want to :-)

7:57 am

smores

lol...keep telling yourself that zooz :)

7:57 am

hokie carla

Hi, Mom.

7:57 am

Jommie

Mom, did his surgery go well?

7:57 am

hokie carla

and Judi

7:57 am

Anniebrook

hahaha, zooz

7:57 am

Mom

hi Judi

7:57 am

Jommie

Wow, so babble has been around for almost 10 years.

7:57 am

Jommie

Hi Judi.

7:58 am

Mom

it did Jommie, thanks

7:58 am

zoozzoom

30th september 2003 babble started.

7:58 am

hokie carla

zooz, I actually did become so addicted several years ago that I had to just stop cold turkey because it was crazy.

7:58 am

Mom

that zooz, is just a wealth of information

7:58 am

smores

I stop playing all the time....

7:58 am

Judi

Ah, we can all stop any time we want to. *twitch twitch*

7:58 am

Jommie

So we can have a party in september and use all the food and drinks from the penalty box ;).

7:58 am

smores

just as soon as I finish the grid :)

7:59 am

Jommie

Lol smores.

7:59 am

Mom

me too Hokie, I was getting obsessed with having to finish them. That was before Lickety

7:59 am

zoozzoom

I am a babble addict and i am proud :-)

7:59 am

hokie carla

I was obsessed with maintaining my ranking by finishing every grid every single night.

7:59 am

Anniebrook

*stands next to zooz*

7:59 am

Mom

*stands next to Annie*

7:59 am

smores

Hello, my name is smores...and I too am a Babble addict

7:59 am

Jommie

I have to finish them too :). Even the 500+-grid from last sunday :).

8:00 am

Judi

Some addictions have 12 step programs. I think we'll just have a 12 year anniversary party.

8:00 am

hokie carla

yeah Mom, I quit just a little after Lickety list. before then, I would print out a list and cross them out, trying to put them in alphabetical order. used to have printouts all over the place.

8:00 am

smores

I did quit on that one Jommie...stopped with 80something left

8:00 am

Anniebrook

hear hear

8:00 am

zoozzoom

Before licketey, Mom..wow..now that must take some doing.

8:01 am

smores

<----loves lickety

8:01 am

zoozzoom

I like the sound of that, Judi!

8:01 am

Anniebrook

<-----loves Lickety too

8:02 am

Mom

we all would help each other and the conversations just evolved from there to where we were all part of each others lives.

8:02 am

Mom

I think I could quit babble but I couldn't quit stopping in to chat with all the wonderful people I have met here.

8:02 am

Anniebrook

(((Mom))))

8:02 am

Judi

So true, Mom. And we'd all discuss where the next meet-up would take place so we can eat and drink wine.

8:03 am

smores

so true Mom :)

8:03 am

Mom

and there were so many trolls back then, it was a lot of fun messing with them

8:03 am

zoozzoom

I do often go onto todays archive chat from flip if i need clues i may of missed and use lickety as a last resort.

8:04 am

smores

lol...me too zooz

8:04 am

Mom

I remember one day back when a lady got really upset that cu** was in the grid. She said that her daughter plays this game and that is totally unacceptable to have that word in the grid and she swore she would never play again.

8:04 am

smores

Messing with poor little trolls, Mom I'm shocked :)

8:04 am

Mom

((Annie))

8:05 am

Judi

Fortunately, as intilectuals, we bore trolls.

8:05 am

Anniebrook

and she never did. I remember that, Mom

8:05 am

MollyL

I have a question. And this is an honest to God question, not a judgment call or anything like that, because everyone plays differently. Why is using clues okay but Lickety is a "last resort"?

8:05 am

Mom

me? oh not me, Smores. I would never!! :-)

8:06 am

Judi

I always figured asking for a clue was more of a last resort. Especially "clues for dummies" such as I frequently require.

8:06 am

smores

:D

8:06 am

zoozzoom

Well although a vulgar word..it is still a word none the less...although i am not keen when i see those words either.

8:06 am

Mom

Hi Molly, for me it is about trying to find as many by myself as I can. Clues if someone ask I am more than happy to add those to my list of words

8:06 am

Anniebrook

To me, a last resort is throwing my computer out the window//// lol

8:06 am

Mom

exactly, Zooz

8:06 am

Mom

hahaha Annie

8:06 am

zoozzoom

Thats good then, Judi as they are the only type of clues i can give..lol

8:07 am

Jommie

Lol Annie.

8:07 am

MollyL

Annie! : D

8:07 am

hokie carla

Molly, it isn't for me. I just see how far I can go by myself before hitting the list. Like right now I am stuck on 91, so will hit the list when I get back from an appt. If I see clues in the box, I'll use them, but I almost consider clues more last resort than the list.

8:07 am

Jommie

Clues are very handy, especially when lickety's clues are not available ;).

8:07 am

smores

Hi Molly, I don't really think of it as a last resort. Morewords and AtoZ are last resort for me.

8:07 am

Mom

Jommie, how long have you been a babbler?

8:08 am

Jommie

Mom: since the 28th of january.

8:08 am

Judi

And I would argue that Morewords and A2Z are often no. help. at. all.

8:08 am

Mom

welcome!

8:08 am

Jommie

(I just looked it up :))

8:08 am

MollyL

Thanks everyone. I see, as I thought, we all have different strategies.

8:09 am

zoozzoom

Molly for me a clue is just for one word..if i see the list..i see all the two letter beginnings of the word..when i don't want to see them.

8:09 am

Jommie

Judi: I find morewords very helpful, but you can get overwhelmed at some times (like with re words).

8:09 am

Mom

strategy? I just pluck down and let my fingers do the walking

8:10 am

zoozzoom

lol, Mom.,

8:10 am

smores

I always start with chat off so I don't see any clues. Then come on chat and visit and try to find as many as I can before looking at list.

8:10 am

Mom

I admire those with a strategy

8:10 am

Mom

and here I am in the grid (if there were more than one of me)

8:10 am

Mom

(thankfully that isn't so) lol

8:11 am

smores

:D

8:11 am

Judi

I do the same, Mom. I just sit down and start bashing away. When I'm feeling smug, I then look down and see how many words are in the grid. And then my ego is crushed into smithereens.

8:11 am

Jommie

Sometimes one word can lead to several others, e.g. when -ing and -ic are in the grid.

8:12 am

Mom

when I use to play in the evening I loved to read the stories Minveryork would create

8:12 am

smores

LOL...judi

8:12 am

Anniebrook

moms

8:12 am

Mom

great clue, Annie :D

8:12 am

Anniebrook

okay, off I go -------->

8:12 am

zoozzoom

She still does that...as far as i am aware.

8:12 am

smores

Yes, I also enjoy Min's stories.

8:13 am

Mom

now that it is just me and sweetie I babble in the mornings

8:13 am

smores

"Places some banana muffins in PB for Annie"

8:14 am

Scrabbler

Good day to all.

8:14 am

Mom

I will add cinnamon rolls and juice to Smores muffins

8:14 am

Jommie

Hi scrabbler

8:14 am

Anniebrook

smores, thanks! goes well with my coffee

8:14 am

smores

:)

8:14 am

Mom

good morning Lady Scrabbler

8:14 am

Anniebrook

and cinnamon rolls are a treat

8:14 am

smores

Morning Scrabbler :)

8:14 am

Scrabbler

Chocolate chips muffins, please.

8:14 am

zoozzoom

Hello, Scrabbler.

8:15 am

Mom

you all notice Scrabbler didn't appear until there was food in the PB

8:15 am

Anniebrook

Hi Scrabbler

8:15 am

Jommie

I will take some stroopwafels with me for the penalty box (they are a Dutch delicacy ;)).

8:15 am

Anniebrook

LOL

8:15 am

smores

lol..yep, that's what I'm having right now Annie :)

8:15 am

Scrabbler

Do you live in the Netherlands, Jommie?

8:15 am

zoozzoom

What a beautiful sunny mild day it is here today.

8:15 am

Jommie

Lol mom :)

8:15 am

Mom

Jommie, where do you live?

8:15 am

Jommie

Mom, I live in the Netherlands.

8:16 am

Mom

ah! Sprite is from there as well

8:16 am

Jommie

(and Scrabbler)

8:16 am

Jommie

I know mom, I talked to her this morning :).

8:16 am

Jommie

We even exchanged some Dutch words, lol :).

8:17 am

Mom

it is neat when you meet someone from your neck of the woods

8:17 am

Scrabbler

I just watched this video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e\nE_IUPInEuc&list=SPqs5ohhass_QZtSkX06Dm\nWOaEaadwmw_D&index=4

8:17 am

zoozzoom

I tried to learn Dutch..gave that up quickly.

8:17 am

hokie carla

alright, I'm off to get out of my pajamas and head to physical therapy. BBL to finish, I'm sure.

8:17 am

Anniebrook

uh oh, the chat is too wide again

8:17 am

hokie carla

scrabbler messed up the chatterbox!

8:18 am

smores

Bye for now hokie...enjoy your day :)

8:18 am

Scrabbler

Too wide?

8:18 am

Scrabbler

Uh, oh. It didn't change for me. I should have used a tinyurl, I guess.

8:18 am

Jommie

I admit that Dutch is not so easy to learn. And most of us speak English anyway, so when you go to the Netherlands for a holiday, you don't have to learn it :).

8:19 am

Anniebrook

yes, the words go off the grid. I think you have to use a tiny url.

8:19 am

smores

Oh well, we chat enough it won't take long to get back to normal :)

8:19 am

Scrabbler

I was lazy and now feel bad.

8:19 am

Judi

Name that proper noun: Greek God.

8:19 am

Anniebrook

*pats scrabbs* there, there

8:19 am

smores

np scrabbler, we've all done it

8:19 am

Scrabbler

This grid is overloaded with vowels.

8:20 am

Anniebrook

zeus

8:20 am

zoozzoom

True, Jommie..but i wanted to, and i found it too hard..lol

8:20 am

Judi

Ding! Ding! Ding! Winner!

8:20 am

Scrabbler

I was looking for Thor in the grid.

8:20 am

Mom

bye bye Smores

8:21 am

Jommie

Lol Zoozzoom :).

8:21 am

Judi

He was a Norse God, Scrabbs.

8:21 am

smores

Bye Mom :)

8:21 am

zoozzoom

Wheres , Smores going.

8:21 am

Jommie

Zoozzoom: was there a special reason that you wanted to learn Dutch?

8:21 am

Scrabbler

Roman, Greek, Norse, Bulgarian..I can't keep all of the Gods straight.

8:22 am

Mom

oops, it was Hokie who was leaving. Bye Hokie

8:22 am

smores

lol..I thought Mom was leaving

8:22 am

Judi

I don't know how the Pagans do it.

8:22 am

Mom

I do need to scoot but .....

8:22 am

Scrabbler

Being a pagan is easy.

8:22 am

smores

hehe

8:22 am

zoozzoom

when i was younger i fancied this dutch girl in my area..and i wanted to impress her.

8:22 am

Mom

okay I am going. ((Hugs)) to all of you.

8:23 am

Scrabbler

Bye Mom

8:23 am

Mom

bye Scrabble

8:23 am

Anniebrook

bye ((Mom)) take care

8:23 am

smores

Bye for real this time Mom...enjoy your day :)

8:23 am

Mom

*Scrabbler

8:23 am

Mom

((Annie)) bye for now

8:23 am

Jommie

Did you succeed in impressing her, Zoozzoom? :)

8:23 am

smores

lol...zooz

8:23 am

zoozzoom

Bye, Mom.

8:23 am

Jommie

Bye mom!

8:23 am

Mom

bye Smores, ((Zooz)) and Jommie

8:24 am

zoozzoom

No..she did not like me really..it was me who liked her..oh well..thats the way it goes.

8:24 am

Jommie

My boyfriend had a Russian colleague and he had to laugh everytime he heard the word 'goeiemorgen' (good morning). It turned out that 'goeie' is a rather vulgar word in Russian. LOL

8:25 am

zoozzoom

hehe..i can imagine the cross over of peoples language can be funny.

8:26 am

Jommie

Yeah, love can be a difficult thing.

8:26 am

smores

BRB

8:26 am

Jommie

Yeah, words can have an entirily different meaning in another language :).

8:28 am

Jommie

In Dutch, the word 'bellen' means 'to ring'. But in German, it means 'to bark'. So this can be confusing when you ask a German to use his phone :).

8:28 am

Anniebrook

Im leaving for a while, be back soon

8:28 am

zoozzoom

Even the same language can have the same effect..American word :Pants are for here UK: Trousers.

8:28 am

Jommie

Bye smores, bye Annie.

8:28 am

Scrabbler

Bye Annie

8:30 am

zoozzoom

And pants here are briefs or underwear.

8:33 am

Jommie

Yeah, I saw an episode of Gordon Ramsey's 'Hell's Kitchen' about a week ago and he helped out two brothers who had a restaurant in New Orleans. Well, you know Gordon Ramsey... He offended one of the guys. And in order to calm his brother down, the other brother said: "No, he didn't offend you, he complimented you! His words have another meaning in Britain". LOL

8:34 am

Jommie

(ofcourse his words didn't have another meaning, but the guy just wanted to calm his brother down. The funny thing is that his brother believed him :))

8:34 am

zoozzoom

Typical of Gordon Ramsey..he can be a bit over the top .

8:35 am

zoozzoom

Scrub the 'bit'..he IS over the top..lol

8:35 am

Jommie

Yeah, you are totally right! *LOL*

8:36 am

Jommie

In this episode, the cook of the restaurant threw a big tantrum at Gordon. It was hilarious to watch! :)

8:37 am

Scrabbler

Still here. I am reading the morning newspaper.

8:37 am

Judi

I love it when someone t

8:37 am

Judi

t's off on Gordon. When they stop yelling, he says, "Go on."

8:39 am

zoozzoom

Sorry my battries died in my controler..just changed them.

8:39 am

Jommie

Lol, yeah. But sometimes even Gordon doesn't know what to do. There was this episode with two twin brothers that owned a restaurant. And one of them started to cry and scream like a little boy and Gordon was like: "What just happened?"

8:40 am

Jommie

Is something wrong with the batteries then, zoozzoom?

8:41 am

zoozzoom

No..i am using the xbox 360..and to type it uses battery power..the battries i had in then went empty of power..i have put new ones in.

8:41 am

Jommie

There are so many weird things on the television these days :).

8:42 am

Jommie

Ah, I understand. I thought that you just put new ones in and that they were empty in no time.

8:42 am

Jommie

That would have been annoying for you.

8:43 am

zoozzoom

No i have also been playing Assasins creed 3..for many hours yesterday..so that depleted most of the battry life..lol

8:44 am

zoozzoom

My spelling today is rubbish...trying to type to fast..lol

8:44 am

Jommie

Lol, it's a good thing that the batteries didn't die during your game then :).

8:45 am

smores

Hello again :)

8:45 am

Jommie

Oh it's ok, my spelling isn't perfect either :). As long as we understand each other, lol.

8:45 am

Scrabbler

It's pretty easy to read typos.

8:45 am

zoozzoom

It does not make a big difference to be honest...all it will say is..reconnect your controller....so you just put the recharged battry or new ones in and away you go.

8:46 am

zoozzoom

Hello, Smores, Welcome back.

8:46 am

Jommie

So the game doesn't go on without you? :)

8:46 am

smores

:)

8:46 am

smores

so true Scrabbler :)

8:46 am

zoozzoom

No it goes into pause mode.

8:47 am

Jommie

Scrabbler: i agree. It appears that you can read words that are totally scrambled, as long as the first and the last letter are in the right place.

8:47 am

Jommie

Welcome back, smores!

8:48 am

Jommie

Zoozzoom: that's a good thing :). I play ruzzle and when you recieve a phone call, the game also pauses. I guess that hasn't always been the case, lol.

8:48 am

smores

I'm considering an x-box zon as I need a new dvd player, didn't know you could play babble on it too :)

8:48 am

zoozzoom

Ok i am going to get a bite to eat..bye for now.

8:49 am

Jommie

Talk to you later, zoozzoom. Enjoy your meal!

8:49 am

smores

Enjoy zooz..see ya later :)

8:49 am

Scrabbler

I am struggling with seeing words in this grid, so it's time for a break. Bye, kids.

8:49 am

Jommie

Bye scrabbler, talk to you later!

8:50 am

zoozzoom

Yes you can go on the internet...play dvds...watch films with netflix etc..play games..amazing bit of kit really..bye..*poof*

8:50 am

Jommie

I've got only a few words left.

8:50 am

smores

Me too, bye for now Scrabbler

8:50 am

smores

lol...I'm still not 1/2 way yet

8:51 am

Jommie

Do you need any clues?

8:51 am

smores

nah...I'm okay :)

8:53 am

Jommie

Okay :). You've still got 15 hours left to finish the grid, so everything will be allright :).

8:53 am

Jommie

Three more words to go...

8:53 am

smores

lol, yep :)

8:53 am

smores

wtg Jommie :)

8:53 am

Jommie

Thanks smores :).

8:54 am

hurshy

hello, and sigh

8:54 am

Jommie

Hi hursh. Why the big sigh?

8:59 am

hurshy

oh it is just weird how you can get stressed out by things that aren't even anything to do with you!

8:59 am

hurshy

i was present for part of a difficult conversation between two other people here at work, just cause i happen to share an office with one of them. after a bit i left, cause i felt so awkward. but i feel for my officemate and it's left me feeling a bit stressed on her behalf.

9:00 am

smores

Sorry...hurshy

9:01 am

hurshy

it's ok, just one of those things

9:01 am

smores

It's because you are compassionate. Which is wonderful, just try not to stress about it though

9:02 am

hurshy

yeah

9:02 am

Jommie

Oh no, sorry to hear that, hurshy! I understand completely. It's a good thing you walked away. It would have been better for them to go to another office, where they could talk in private.

9:03 am

Jommie

I agree, smores. Being compassionate is a blessing, but it can also be a burden.

9:03 am

smores

Agree Jommie, shouldn't have stuck you in the middle of it hurshy

9:03 am

crosshair

crossy is back! and it is now time for crossy's tidbit of the day!! now,i did this once a while ago as a tidbit but have had requests to post it again so here it is!! http://tinyurl.com/4tnx3ru

9:03 am

Jommie

Yahoo, I just typed in the last word! Fireworks!!

9:04 am

Jommie

Welcome back, crosshair!

9:04 am

crosshair

yaaa for jommie!!

9:04 am

Jommie

Thanks, crossy :).

9:04 am

Jommie

Let's take a look at your link :).

9:04 am

smores

WTG Jommie !!! WooHoo :)

9:05 am

smores

think I'll pass crossy...lol

9:05 am

crosshair

why,smores?

9:06 am

Jommie

Thanks smores!

9:06 am

smores

just joking...the title " Date a girl who reads"

9:06 am

crosshair

i post tidbits here for fun,for interesting info,or just to stimulate conversation,there is never any harm in them,smores

9:06 am

crosshair

ahh ok

9:07 am

crosshair

and what is wrong with dating a girl who reads? i did and now our 20th aniversary is coming up this october;))

9:07 am

smores

lol...I know crossy..I love your tidbits :)

9:08 am

hurshy

smores might not be interested in GIRLS, crossy

9:08 am

smores

I was just being silly...

9:08 am

crosshair

funny thing is,once we moved in together we found we had doubbles on many of the books:)

9:08 am

crosshair

my beloved is still my girl

9:09 am

smores

:)

9:09 am

Jommie

My boyfriend dated a girl that writes (see the last sentence of the text) and we're also celebrating our anniversary in october :). But for us it's the 15th anniversary :).

9:10 am

hurshy

so who wants to help me with z's? i only have acne.

9:10 am

crosshair

i have a book on the shelf right now.was bought in chrsitmas of 1993 by my unborn son(my mrs helped:)) he was born feb of 1994 but gave me a nice book with a lovely inscription:))

9:10 am

smores

there is another zi4/9 and plural

9:11 am

hurshy

ahh, yummy!

9:11 am

Jommie

The other zi 4/9 has the 3 first letters in common with the acne and zi 5/20 is the plural of the zi 4.

9:11 am

smores

awww...that's sweet crossy :)

9:11 am

Jommie

Oh, that's nice crossy! Books with inscriptions are always nice!

9:12 am

crosshair

now he is a lazy 19 year old that sleeps 14 hours a day and eats enough food for three people:/

9:13 am

Jommie

Lol, sounds like a typical adolescent to me ;).

9:13 am

smores

lol

9:14 am

smores

just found the other 2 z's zi5/22 and plural

9:14 am

Jommie

Crossy, does he also has his cellphone grown into the palm of his hand? Lol

9:14 am

Jommie

Way to go, smores!

9:14 am

hurshy

ty smores!

9:14 am

crosshair

he does indeed.but on his own plan.mommy and daddy do NOT pay his way with the cell phone

9:15 am

hurshy

name that proper noun! big greek god

9:15 am

smores

yw

9:15 am

crosshair

zues

9:15 am

crosshair

zeus

9:15 am

hurshy

ding ding ding!

9:15 am

crosshair

that lightning bolt fella

9:16 am

hurshy

name that proper noun! cowboys quarterback

9:16 am

crosshair

mm,telly is never on anymore.have no idea

9:16 am

crosshair

cutting the cable end of this month actually.waste of money

9:18 am

smores

yes, did that a couple months ago crossy

9:18 am

crosshair

going to go unlimited internet data and run video streaming/crackle and netflix

9:18 am

smores

lol...that's what I'm doing

9:19 am

hurshy

hmm, the m's seem to be a bit of a struggle

9:20 am

trentsnana

Romo

9:20 am

crosshair

i think it is much better,smores.no more idiotic reality shows,no more shows with parents sexualizing thier 6 year old daughter to win prizes and no more honey boo boo and whatever language she and her brood are trying to use and no more talk shows that play dna roulette for the masses

9:20 am

trentsnana

And good morning!!

9:20 am

crosshair

howdy trents nana!

9:21 am

smores

Hiya trents :)

9:21 am

trentsnana

How is everyone? It's a beautiful day here in Montana.

9:21 am

hurshy

ding ding ding!

9:21 am

smores

Yes, and most networks have shows available online anyway

9:22 am

crosshair

yup,so pick what you wish and discard the rest;))

9:22 am

trentsnana

Stats for the "i" please?

9:22 am

hurshy

iz4/9

9:22 am

crosshair

ty,hurshy

9:22 am

trentsnana

Thanks

9:23 am

smores

I bought a $30 antenna and get my local networks just fine

9:23 am

crosshair

bright and sunny and minus 6 c here in central ontario,trentsnana

9:24 am

hurshy

i always remember iz4/9 because in one star trek ep there was a character called garth of iz4/9... but i suppose that doesn't help many people for cluing.

9:24 am

smores

bought a HDMI cable and connect the laptop and good to go

9:24 am

crosshair

that is what we are planning,smores.

9:24 am

crosshair

it also works with our tablets

9:25 am

hurshy

well, i have most of the 7's and the 8, but what does the 9 start with?

9:25 am

smores

os9/60

9:25 am

crosshair

os 9/60

9:25 am

crosshair

snap

9:25 am

Jommie

Here in the Netherlands, it is sunny and it's 4 degrees celsius.

9:26 am

Jommie

Hurshy, are you a Star Trek fan? ;)

9:26 am

trentsnana

It's only 16F here, but a beautiful, sunny day. The snow-capped mountains look awesome this morning.

9:26 am

hurshy

yes, i am.

9:27 am

hurshy

thanks for the os9.

9:27 am

smores

36F and cloudy here in IN

9:28 am

smores

yw

9:28 am

bichon

hint for the os 9, pls

9:29 am

smores

burial container

9:29 am

Jommie

Hursy, I also like Star Trek :).

9:29 am

smores

sorry...make that containers

9:29 am

hurshy

sounds a lot like an es9 that is river feeders

9:29 am

hurshy

^5 jommie

9:29 am

bichon

ty

9:30 am

smores

lol...just found tidie wh*****

9:30 am

Jommie

Most of the time, people find it very strange that a girl loves Star Trek, lol.

9:30 am

hurshy

yeah people come over and see ST stuff and ask my husband if he's a fan. it's kind of offensive.

9:30 am

trentsnana

Thanks, Hurshy - that helped me find it

9:31 am

Jommie

Yeah, I can imagine! Why can't a girl be a Star Trek fan? We named one of our cats Neelix *lol*.

9:31 am

hurshy

nice :)

9:31 am

Jommie

(our Neelix is a female, though :)).

9:31 am

hurshy

my dad introduced me to it when i was 7. my first episode was "amok time" so it took me a while to understand that spock was good.

9:32 am

Jommie

Lol, is that the mirror episode in which Spock is bad?

9:32 am

hurshy

no it's where he's in pon farr and has to try to kill kirk

9:32 am

Jommie

(and has a beard)

9:33 am

Jommie

Ah, I don't know if I've seen that one. I haven't seen many of the TOS episodes.

9:34 am

trentsnana

Stats for the 8?

9:34 am

TraderKate

good morning everyone. i named a cat of mine tiberius ;)

9:34 am

hurshy

i think that one is called "mirror, mirror"

9:34 am

MLFAN17

stats for 2nd column i please?

9:34 am

smores

we8/60

9:34 am

hurshy

we8/60

9:34 am

trentsnana

iz 4/9

9:34 am

hurshy

iz4/9

9:34 am

Jommie

Good morning Kate. Tiberius is also a great name for a cat! :)

9:34 am

smores

Hi TK, MLF :)

9:34 am

trentsnana

TY

9:34 am

MLFAN17

hi smores

9:35 am

MLFAN17

ty

9:35 am

hurshy

yeah not bad

9:35 am

smores

Our cats are name Gizmo, Smo-smo(smoky} and Snarf

9:35 am

Jommie

Oh yeah, I think you are right, Hurshy. And there is also a mirror, mirror episode in the Voyager series, called 'Author, author'. Lieutenant Paris's name is Marseille in that episode :).

9:35 am

TraderKate

the boyfriend wanted to nam3e him jim, but i put my foot down and gave him the alternative ... of course the next one had to have a cool name too, so he was dubbed claudius

9:36 am

hurshy

lol

9:36 am

Jommie

Lol Kate :)

9:36 am

TraderKate

snarf???? is that a sound that the cat makes?

9:36 am

MLFAN17

stats for the O first column please?

9:36 am

smores

lol...good for you TK

9:36 am

bichon

oa 4/4

9:37 am

smores

Snarf was the "pet" on Thundercats

9:37 am

TraderKate

thank you for clearing that up smores :)

9:38 am

smores

my daughter named him :)

9:38 am

Jommie

My mother-in-law was not so happy that we gave such unusual names to our cats, lol. She kept forgetting them :).

9:38 am

MLFAN17

clue please?

9:39 am

bichon

oa 4 roasting oven

9:39 am

crosshair

"our three cats are named , sirrius black,aberkadabera and amos

9:39 am

trentsnana

Or or4/4

9:39 am

Jommie

Our other two cats are called Koosy (actually Koosalagoopagoop, a character from 'Dexter's laboratory') and Kangoo (because she ran away when she was just with us and we found her back near a Renault Kangoo).

9:39 am

MLFAN17

ty i got another word from it

9:40 am

hurshy

:)

9:40 am

smores

:)

9:40 am

hurshy

well nice to meet you jommie, i'm off for now, see you all later

9:40 am

TraderKate

good names jommie!

9:40 am

Jommie

Nice to meet you too, hurshy! Talk to you later!

9:40 am

Jommie

Thanks Kate :).

9:40 am

MLFAN17

one more for nbt 2nd S 5th column please?

9:40 am

TraderKate

ttfn hursh

9:41 am

Jommie

I like your cat names as well :).

9:41 am

o-o

If I had a cat I would name is bowser

9:41 am

smores

Bye for now hurshy....enjoy your day :)

9:41 am

TraderKate

so 4/5 so 5/12

9:41 am

crosshair

our next cat will be a russian blue as i wish to name it smirnoff

9:41 am

MLFAN17

ty got it

9:41 am

smores

lol...crossy

9:41 am

Jommie

Hi babblerabble :). Bowser... like the Nintendo character?

9:42 am

TraderKate

<smirk> @ crossy

9:42 am

smores

Hi BR :)

9:42 am

o-o

like fido

9:42 am

Jommie

Lol crossy. Our next cats will be 2 Egyptian ones and we want to call them Ramses and Cleopatra ;).

9:42 am

smores

A friend of mine in high school had a cat named "Dog"

9:43 am

crosshair

ahh the egyptian maus.nice cats

9:43 am

o-o

and the dog would be name feline

9:43 am

smores

:)

9:43 am

Jommie

Lol, babblerabble and smores. That's so funny.

9:44 am

Jommie

Or just call your cat, cat.

9:44 am

o-o

have to give the vet shrinks something to do

9:44 am

Jommie

Yeah,some people think those egyptian cats are scary, but I think they're very nice!

9:44 am

crosshair

want to have fun? name your next cat kitty treats

9:44 am

o-o

of course I celebrate thanksgiving on july fourth

9:45 am

Jommie

Lol crosshair.

9:45 am

smores

Another friend had a solid black cat named Snowball and a solid white persian named Midnight.

9:45 am

poor richard

How many words total today? Anyone?

9:45 am

crosshair

155

9:45 am

smores

155 richard

9:46 am

poor richard

Great! Thanks, crosshair. Snow day in Chicago today, so this will be fun!

9:46 am

mcurlschool

my sister once had 2 black cats named green and orange

9:46 am

poor richard

And thanks, smokes!

9:46 am

crosshair

now cough up the 11 bux,richard,and go pro

9:46 am

o-o

you must be basking in the glory of being in the grid, smores

9:46 am

smores

lol

9:46 am

bichon

I live on Yellow Yellow Circle

9:46 am

mcurlschool

bbl -- off to do my morning before school supervision stint!

9:47 am

smores

Ahhh, yes BR...now if only Enable would recognize me :)

9:47 am

Jommie

I had a friend once who had a dog with a strange name. One day, the mailman came at the door and the dog escaped, so her mother called the dog... And the mailman was offended, because he thought she was talking to him... LOL

9:47 am

smores

bye for now mccurl :)

9:48 am

Jommie

mcurlschool: when I hear the name 'orange', it always reminds me of 'the annoying orange' :)

9:49 am

bichon

Yellow Yellow Circle is between Yellow Green St. and Yellow Orange Circle

9:49 am

TraderKate

pull the other one bichon ;)

9:50 am

Jommie

Bichon, that sounds rather confusing ;).

9:50 am

smores

lol...bichon

9:50 am

bichon

It is and there's a Red Orance and a Red Yellow

9:50 am

bichon

*Orange

9:51 am

smores

hmpf...no purple?

9:51 am

crosshair

and now it is time for crossy's quote of the day!!!

9:51 am

Jommie

It must be hard to live there when you are colourblind, lol :).

9:51 am

crosshair

â€œNo book is really worth reading at the age of ten which is not equally â€“ and often far more â€“ worth reading at the age of fifty and beyond.â€
â€• C.S. Lewis

9:51 am

bichon

It's hard to live there, period. Try giving that info and people don't believe you

9:51 am

Jommie

Nice quote, crossy!

9:52 am

smores

lol..I bet bichon...

9:52 am

Jommie

I can understand, bichon! It makes me wonder whoever came up with the idea for those names...

9:52 am

smores

so true crossy :)

9:52 am

crosshair

just re-read 20,000 leagues under the sea my Mr verne the other day and it came to mind

9:53 am

smores

Bichon...what's with the crossword puzzle?

9:54 am

smores

I re-read sooo many classics a few years back when they were "new" for my girls

9:54 am

TraderKate

ta da! got the we 8/60 all by myself !
<smug satisfaction oozing from my pores>

9:54 am

crosshair

here is a terrible thought.if you can manage 2 books a week for the rest of your life,the most you can hope for is around 10,000 books.so be careful of what you re-read!:)

9:55 am

smores

WTG TK :)

9:55 am

crosshair

yaaa for kate!!

9:55 am

smores

that's a depressing thought crossy

9:55 am

TraderKate

old song... putting on the cracker

9:56 am

crosshair

it is indeed

9:56 am

smores

<---passes TK a towel :)

9:56 am

Jommie

Crossy: unless you take a course in speed reading, but that leaves you no time to enjoy the book...

9:57 am

crosshair

i actually had to untrain myself from speed reading when schooling was done.it made leisure reading very unenjoyable

9:57 am

crosshair

took years to get rid of it

9:57 am

TraderKate

which brings us to the new eternal debate - e-reader vs. actual hard copy book. i prefer to turn the pages of the real thing, i must be very tactile :0

9:58 am

crosshair

at one time i was readin entire books in a single afternoon

9:58 am

crosshair

both have a place in my workd ,kate

9:58 am

TraderKate

it does sound like it would take the fun out of it crosssy

9:58 am

crosshair

my wife would be unable to read without her e reader

9:58 am

smores

My daughter does that crossy, self-trained speed reader

9:59 am

Jommie

I prefer actual books too, Kate. Crossy: I can imagine that it is not very enjoyable when you finish a book in no time.

9:59 am

smores

I prefer the actual book, but also like readers...especially for on the go

9:59 am

crosshair

though i am ok now.i can make a average book last 3-5 days

10:00 am

crosshair

the ebooks coming out was my wifes saviour.with her vision at 20/400 she had been ten years without being able to read before they came out

10:00 am

Jommie

When you're at school, speed reading comes in very handy, though. When I think back to all the books I had to read at school...

10:00 am

smores

wow... so glad she can enjoy reading again

10:01 am

Jommie

Crossy, how very nice that she can read again!

10:01 am

crosshair

as am i.i bought one of the very first side lit readers for her(the sony prs 700) at the time it cost 450 dollars!!

10:01 am

TraderKate

how terrible for her crossy. glad they came along for her sake and others in her position

10:01 am

crosshair

now a nook glow can be had for 100:)

10:02 am

Jommie

Yeah, they are pretty common nowadays. And you don't have to bring all your books with you when you're on a holiday :).

10:02 am

crosshair

has anyone here ever seen any large print hardcovers of the hogwarts books?

10:03 am

TraderKate

i'll keep my eye out for them crossy

10:04 am

Jommie

I haven't, but they must be there somewhere.

10:04 am

crosshair

my beloved adores the series(i was lucky to find ebook versions) but if i can find it in a nice collector set hardcover large print,it would be a nice gift

10:06 am

rubyfoo

is granny rose still here?

10:06 am

rubyfoo

I just got back from the movies (yay) and saw that she is in terrible pain

10:07 am

rubyfoo

((mom, annie, smores, cerossy)

10:07 am

rubyfoo

who is here

10:07 am

rubyfoo

I only have a minute

10:07 am

Jommie

Hi ruby

10:07 am

rubyfoo

((sprite)) are you here

10:07 am

TraderKate

hi ruby :)

10:07 am

Jommie

Grannyrose went offline several hours ago, to catch some sleep.

10:08 am

rubyfoo

hello kate

10:08 am

rubyfoo

I think I found the question mark, now need to find the exclamation so I can drive molly crazy

10:08 am

Jommie

Crossy: I just did a quick google seach and there are hard cover large print Harry Potter books available at amazon.ca and booksamillion.com.

10:09 am

TraderKate

nice to see you ruby, why the babble and dash?

10:09 am

rubyfoo

I feel guilty, having left DH alone all afternoon

10:11 am

rubyfoo

I'll come back after dinner xx everybody

10:11 am

smores

{{Ruby}} HI :)

10:11 am

TraderKate

well, hurry back ruby... no guilt ;)

10:11 am

rubyfoo

((smores)) can't find the fancy parentheses

10:11 am

smores

:)

10:11 am

Jommie

Ruby, she said that she has the cardiologist's direct number and that she is going to call him tomorrow.

10:12 am

crosshair

ty,jommie

10:12 am

smores

You'll figure it all out soon ruby :)

10:12 am

Jommie

You're welcome, Crossy. When you search for 'Harry Potter large print hardcover' you will find more websites.

10:12 am

TraderKate

to the right of the "p" on my keyboard

10:13 am

rubyfoo

I had lunch and a moie, MOBIUS, with my friend who will take me to pick up puppy girl next week

10:13 am

smores

How lovely ruby :)

10:13 am

rubyfoo

it's a funny name for a film, I did a series of watercolors of Mobius strips many years ago

10:14 am

crosshair

i see her new one,casual vacancy in hardcover large print but not the potter series.do you have a link for it,jommie?

10:14 am

rubyfoo

and Catherine recognized the one in the movie because she had seen one of my paintings, but didn't know what it was called

10:15 am

uusue2

morning all!

10:15 am

rubyfoo

*woof*

10:15 am

rubyfoo

(hi and bye sue)

10:15 am

Jommie

I've got two links for you, but they are only to individual books and not the whole series. But you may be able to find the rest of the series on those web sites.

10:15 am

uusue2

hi and bye, ruby!

10:16 am

crosshair

suze!! ((ruby))

10:16 am

Jommie

http://www.amazon.ca/Harry-Potter-Phil\nosophers-Stone-Large/dp/0747554560 and http://www.booksamillion.com/p/Harry-P\notter-Sorcerers-Stone/J-K-Rowling/9780\n786222728

10:16 am

uusue2

hi crossy!

10:16 am

crosshair

ty,jommie

10:17 am

Jommie

Sorry, I messed up the first link. It is: http://www.amazon.ca/Harry-Potter-Phil\nosophers-Stone-Large/dp/0747554560

10:17 am

crosshair

k,got it

10:18 am

smores

Hi Sue :)

10:18 am

Jommie

Strange... the link looks different, but it works :).

10:18 am

TraderKate

gonna take 5 bbs hi sue :)

10:18 am

Jommie

You're welcome!

10:18 am

smores

bye for now TK :)

10:21 am

crosshair

there are 7 books,right? seems like i can get 5 from there in large print

10:22 am

Jommie

Yes, I believe there are seven books. Hopefully you can also find the other two.

10:22 am

crosshair

6* missing only one now

10:23 am

Jommie

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/s/?aref=\n1520&dref=1%2C6%2C1768

10:24 am

Jommie

All seven are present here, but they are more expensive than on the Amazon website.

10:24 am

crosshair

there we go,found all 7!

10:24 am

smores

brb

10:24 am

crosshair

but $$$$ they range fro 21 ot 47 follars per book

10:26 am

Jommie

Oh ofcourse :). I didn't see that. Sorry :).

10:26 am

crosshair

dollars

10:26 am

Jommie

Way to go, Crossy!

10:28 am

TraderKate

we'll take up a collection for literary enlightenment ;)

10:29 am

Jommie

Good idea, Kate :).

10:31 am

Jommie

I have to go now. It's almost dinner time. It was nice talking to you all and I'm wishing all of you a wonderful day!

10:31 am

uusue2

sorry, stepped away for a bit. Back now.

10:32 am

TraderKate

bye jommie, see you tomorrow

10:32 am

Jommie

See you tomorrow! Bye bye!

10:39 am

smores

I'm back...just made a wonderful scrambled egg sandwich

10:40 am

TraderKate

now you've done it smores! i will probably have to go forage soon...

10:41 am

uusue2

hi smores and kate!

10:41 am

TraderKate

hey there sue!

10:41 am

smores

Eggs were 1/2 done, was getting ready to add some shredded cheese when I spotted the left over queso dip. Added a heaping spoonful...quite tasty

10:42 am

uusue2

ooh, sounds yummy, smores!

10:43 am

uusue2

neighbors are shoveling my driveway!

10:43 am

smores

Never thought to do that before...very good

10:44 am

smores

aww...how nice Sue

10:45 am

uusue2

ithink Frank may be out trying to help, I should get him back in. he needs to take care of his feet and hands.

10:45 am

MollyL

Sue, you have the best friends and neighbors ever.

10:45 am

uusue2

I do indeed, molly!

10:45 am

smores

:)

10:46 am

uusue2

i can't even do much right now, had a cortisone shot in my thumb yesterday and it hurts like crazy.

10:47 am

smores

eek...

10:47 am

TraderKate

ouch!

10:47 am

uusue2

apparently it takes a few dats for the shot to kick in, if it's going to work at all

10:48 am

uusue2

*days. Typing with left hand.

10:48 am

uusue2

brb...

10:59 am

smores

wow...sm5/22 is a word but smores isn't...just not right

11:00 am

TraderKate

not sure what the sm is, but s'mores is a contraction therefore not accepted though all babblers names should be allowed methinks ;)

11:00 am

uusue2

that is pretty sm5/22ing, isn't it?

11:01 am

smores

lol..Sue

11:01 am

smores

I agree TK

11:01 am

TraderKate

â€” n

( US ) a smoky haze, less damp than fog

11:02 am

uusue2

US, huh? Never heard it...

11:02 am

smores

yep...that be the one

11:02 am

MollyL

It's a made up word, like smog

11:06 am

TraderKate

100 down; 55 to go woot! brb

11:07 am

smores

LOL...that's funny TK...just entered my 100th word :)

11:11 am

smores

okay...50 left for later, gotta go get some things done

11:16 am

TraderKate

bye smores

11:22 am

cybernan

good morning, everyone :)

11:22 am

TraderKate

morninng nan

11:31 am

TraderKate

the world's most finicky cat is in here! must have been all the ca chat earlier ;)

11:35 am

rubyfoo

hello I just got a call from Spain, my puppy girl is coming to Lyon on Tuesday.

11:35 am

rubyfoo

YAY

11:35 am

ChrissieDee

Amore, whoa oh oh oh.....

11:35 am

TraderKate

ooooh! you're getting her sooner than ezpected?

11:35 am

cybernan

om 5, please?

11:36 am

TraderKate

amour would be accepted though....

11:36 am

jmcnrick

hi all

11:36 am

ChrissieDee

Need that O for nbt nan

11:36 am

TraderKate

don't have it yet nan.
hi jmc and chrissie

11:37 am

ChrissieDee

Just felt the urge to sing Kate

11:37 am

jmcnrick

i got the cat clue! haha

11:37 am

ChrissieDee

ruby, that's exciting news

11:37 am

cybernan

bring on the meow mix :)

11:37 am

jmcnrick

good news ruby

11:38 am

TraderKate

we'll make chex mix with meow mix and have a kitty party!

11:38 am

rubyfoo

I am very happy as missing Ruby has been a huge weight and Raffie will surely help

11:38 am

jmcnrick

uh. . . i think i will pass on the mix ty

11:38 am

rubyfoo

looking for cat clue

11:39 am

TraderKate

old ads for cat food, starred mo 6/21 - the world's most finicky cat

11:39 am

jmcnrick

the worlds most finicky cat. . . a commercial from yesteryear

11:40 am

rubyfoo

I remember, ty

11:40 am

TraderKate

also mo 6/21 mo**** dancers

11:40 am

rubyfoo

or mo6 chairs

11:40 am

welki

leaving on a jet plane.....

11:41 am

jmcnrick

ah . . . i remember having morris dancers dance on our table in shepardstown wv and my mil bought them a beer. . .

11:41 am

jmcnrick

yay welki. . . get her before the snow. . .

11:41 am

rubyfoo

may I have the stats for the 8 pls? hah, found the question mark

11:41 am

TraderKate

now everyone's singing... and jmc is making her way to the PB

11:41 am

rubyfoo

we can serenade her

11:41 am

jmcnrick

duh! and i never make that mistake. . . hahahaha

11:42 am

welki

what's the forecast now?

11:42 am

MollyL

we8/60

11:42 am

TraderKate

what's the question mark?
the 8 is we 8/60

11:42 am

rubyfoo

that's not a bad earworm for a change

11:42 am

jmcnrick

rain tonight and snow in the morning. . . are you flying directly or transfering in chicago?

11:42 am

rubyfoo

one of my missing piÃ¨ces of punctuation

11:43 am

welki

direct (because i've gotten stuck in chicago before)

11:43 am

TraderKate

oh, you're on a french keyboard ?

11:43 am

jmcnrick

good choice! if you were going through chitown i would have had my doubts. . .already snowing hard there

11:44 am

rubyfoo

it's Fr on the outside, but its heart is English

11:44 am

jmcnrick

hahaha ruby!

11:44 am

welki

i board in an hour, not too much of a wait

11:45 am

jmcnrick

which O were you missing and are you still missing it?

11:45 am

TraderKate

i accidentally changed my keyboard last week, to get it to revert from french to englih, i had to hit alt + shift on the left side i think....

11:46 am

jmcnrick

i didnt know you could do that!

11:46 am

rubyfoo

this keyboard came with my new computer

11:46 am

jmcnrick

welki you will have to fix my chrome on friday night. . .deleting and reenstalling dod not solve the problem

11:46 am

welki

can't believe the private things people talk about on the phone, and business issues!

11:46 am

TraderKate

don't take my word for it, but to confirm - google french to english keyboard and see what yu get

11:47 am

welki

okay, cando

11:47 am

jmcnrick

haha i know what you mean welki. .

11:47 am

rubyfoo

that's funny, welki

11:47 am

rubyfoo

I just read an article in the New Yorker about a playwright who teaches and has her students transcribe overheard conversations

11:47 am

welki

some guybis on the vergem

11:48 am

cybernan

kate - don't you have a keyboard icon on the bottom task bar?

11:48 am

jmcnrick

dcist has an entire section on overheard conversations. . .I suspect so does gothemist, etc

11:48 am

welki

sheesh (ipad). some guy is on the verge of losing a client. i'd turf him, he just said, "you dont' get to talk out of both sides of your mouth!"

11:49 am

jmcnrick

*trying to decide what vergem is*

11:49 am

TraderKate

no i don't nan, i'm at an internet cafe working with windows 7 and office 2010 here i think

11:50 am

jmcnrick

he said that to his client? fire his a**

11:50 am

welki

guybis on the vergem - sounds like jabberwocky!

11:50 am

rubyfoo

some people speak so loudly on their cells that I think they must have had two cans and a string when they ere kids

11:50 am

cybernan

I'm running win 7 - funny there is a keyboard icon on the right had side of the lower task bar that I can use to change the settings

11:50 am

jmcnrick

i thought it was an allusion to the family jewels (a term i hate)

11:50 am

jmcnrick

lots of different kinds of keyboards

11:51 am

welki

gonna take a walk, later, all

11:51 am

jmcnrick

bye welki

11:51 am

TraderKate

you can add/delete icons down there. no biggie anyway

11:51 am

jmcnrick

i gues whoever needed the O no longer does

11:51 am

cybernan

ouch - just reached the z's ----- heeeeeelp

11:51 am

rubyfoo

it's better than junk

11:51 am

TraderKate

a type of pasta and pl

11:52 am

TraderKate

pimples - or the title of a comic strip

11:52 am

cybernan

found the last 3 - just need the first 2 now

11:53 am

TraderKate

you and me both...

11:53 am

jmcnrick

stats for the i please

11:53 am

MollyL

zi + male sheep

11:53 am

cybernan

ty molly

11:53 am

jmcnrick

ooo molls is a bert lahr fan!

11:53 am

jmcnrick

ty molls

11:53 am

rubyfoo

thank you, molly

11:53 am

TraderKate

and pl :0

11:54 am

TraderKate

i love that movie, just watched it on tv for probably the hundreth time

11:54 am

jmcnrick

but the roman (?) top god is not a word :-(

11:54 am

cybernan

om 5, please?

11:55 am

jmcnrick

i am interested to see if Oz will track the book better

11:55 am

ChrissieDee

Jmc, away for a bit, I need the O in the right column please

11:55 am

TraderKate

my monkey gave up on that one nan

11:55 am

rubyfoo

the Roman god works, jmc

11:55 am

jmcnrick

os$ chrissie

11:56 am

TraderKate

chrissie - do you have the 9? word for burial container (bones)

11:56 am

jmcnrick

sorry that was os4

11:56 am

rubyfoo

I can't find the we8

11:56 am

TraderKate

sorry - plural

11:56 am

TraderKate

most tired

11:56 am

ChrissieDee

ty Kate, looking....

11:57 am

ChrissieDee

ty jmc, looking too....

11:57 am

rubyfoo

ty kate, was dancing around it

11:57 am

cybernan

we 8: most tired

11:57 am

jmcnrick

uh. . no, Zeus doesnt work. . .

11:58 am

cybernan

ao 6, please?

11:58 am

TraderKate

lots of singing and dancing in here today - must be 'caause the sun is shining -FINALLY!!!!!

11:58 am

rubyfoo

ty nan

11:58 am

jmcnrick

stats for the i please

11:58 am

cybernan

nm - found it

11:58 am

TraderKate

iz 4/9

11:58 am

jmcnrick

ty trader

11:59 am

cybernan

last word is that om 5 and I am stumped

11:59 am

TraderKate

will you share the ao 6 please?

11:59 am

jmcnrick

still looking for the ao6. . . but nbt

11:59 am

TraderKate

i'lll take another crack at looking for it nan

12:00 pm

Nef

Good Morning Everyone!

12:00 pm

cybernan

ao + homonym for joint between hand and forearm

12:00 pm

rubyfoo

o6 almost like someone who paints

12:00 pm

rubyfoo

hello nef

12:00 pm

cybernan

hi nef

12:00 pm

jmcnrick

hi nef

12:00 pm

TraderKate

thanks fo the ao word, hi nef!

12:01 pm

TraderKate

bbs

12:01 pm

Nef

We've had at least 10 inches of snow overnight; the dog can't even get off the steps to pee because the snow is so deep (I'll need to go out and make paths for him again)

12:01 pm

jmcnrick

poor puppy!

12:02 pm

rubyfoo

poor nef!

12:02 pm

ChrissieDee

Have you left him with his legs crossed while you babble Nef :D

12:02 pm

jmcnrick

om5=o+m*** harina makes tortillas

12:03 pm

Nef

I took him out twice before I went to bed; got up once to beat a short path for him during the night and got him out (when he peed on the steps at 7 AM; but he still went on the carpet twice during the night. I'm upset with him.

12:03 pm

cybernan

not getting the tortilla clue

12:03 pm

rubyfoo

how old is he?

12:04 pm

jmcnrick

mmmm o+ol' m*** done freed me!

12:04 pm

EvaNadine

A Love Story, by EvaNadine:

Dear Lunch,
I Love You!

12:04 pm

ChrissieDee

Oh dear, not a good start to the day

12:04 pm

jmcnrick

i was just thinking about lunch evan! haha

12:04 pm

Nef

He's now asleep in the lazy boy chair. I'm not going to go outside and clear a path til he wants to go out again since the snow continues

12:05 pm

cybernan

ty jmc

12:05 pm

cybernan

*!* ta da *!* - finally - ty for the help :)

12:05 pm

jmcnrick

i liked the m*** harina clue better! hahaha

12:05 pm

jmcnrick

whoo hoo cyber!

12:05 pm

jmcnrick

what does the 9 start with?

12:06 pm

cybernan

a brand of tortillas in the US?

12:06 pm

Nef

YAY, cybernan!!! WTG!!!

12:06 pm

jmcnrick

no that is the corn meal cyber. . .

12:06 pm

TraderKate

the 9 starts we

12:06 pm

cybernan

os 9

12:07 pm

Nef

ares

12:07 pm

jmcnrick

m*** is dried corn that is ground into meal

12:07 pm

cybernan

want a clue jmc?

12:07 pm

jmcnrick

the 8 is we8. . . and the nine os9?

12:08 pm

cybernan

we have tortillas in the markets up here, but they aren't as big a deal as in the states

12:08 pm

jmcnrick

let me at least look for it for a minute. . . stranger things have happened than me seeing a word. . .

12:08 pm

cybernan

yes os 9

12:08 pm

jmcnrick

not as many mexicans in canada. . .

12:09 pm

Nef

sorry; just noticed I'm in the PB

12:09 pm

cybernan

we have mexican seasonal workers -- they come up here to pick fruit - mainly the grape harvest

12:09 pm

jmcnrick

i think the coffee should be done in the pb by now from my earlier trip. . .

12:10 pm

TraderKate

sorry for steering you wrong the we is an 8 - listen to nan i'm an idiot today

12:10 pm

ChrissieDee

You don't have to go Nef, I give you immunity for snow patrol

12:10 pm

jmcnrick

okay i give up. . .clue for the os9 please

12:10 pm

Nef

it is, jmc. And thanks! I love the chocolate brownies someone left here too

12:10 pm

cybernan

bone repository

12:10 pm

TraderKate

still not getting the tortilla thing for the om 5....

12:11 pm

jmcnrick

not me. . .no one wants to eat my baked goods even in cyberland

12:11 pm

jmcnrick

hmmmm okay. . .

12:11 pm

jmcnrick

trader did you see my mildly racist clue for om5?

12:11 pm

TraderKate

ii'll gladly eat yur baking jmc!

12:12 pm

cybernan

want a more specific clue for the os?

12:12 pm

Nef

TK, think about Catholic services, change last letter to a vowel

12:12 pm

TraderKate

yes, but must be blind today

12:12 pm

uusue2

hi again all!

12:12 pm

ChrissieDee

om + light ** * feather

12:12 pm

Nef

hi Sue!

12:12 pm

jmcnrick

yes please cyber. . .

12:13 pm

uusue2

got the 8 and the 9, thanks all!

12:13 pm

TraderKate

finally! hit me over the head with a really big fish!

12:13 pm

jan

The os/9 is a chapel for bones. There's one in the Czech Republic that's amazing--chandeliers and sculptures made entirely of human bones. Weird but striking

12:13 pm

cybernan

os + boy with the girls name - last letter + ram zodiac sign

12:13 pm

jmcnrick

hi uu

12:14 pm

rubyfoo

saw it jmc and was surprised, it made me chuckle

12:14 pm

ChrissieDee

Good clue nan

12:14 pm

rubyfoo

I'm rther sick of being PC

12:14 pm

cybernan

ty chrissie

12:14 pm

jmcnrick

*whew* ty cyber

12:15 pm

cybernan

yw jmc

12:15 pm

jmcnrick

i was using the wrong variation of bone

12:15 pm

jmcnrick

nbs

12:15 pm

uusue2

yay jmc!

12:16 pm

rubyfoo

there is a kind of owl that I thought was in here, but I must be spelling it wrong starts with sa

12:16 pm

uusue2

ok, time for a bite of lunch, bbl

12:16 pm

jmcnrick

well i think i am going to go find something for lunch. . . bbl

12:16 pm

jmcnrick

116 left. . . *poof*

12:16 pm

wvteach

good afternoon all

12:16 pm

rubyfoo

hello teach

12:16 pm

cybernan

yes - sawhet - but for some reason enable doesn't have that one

12:17 pm

wvteach

hello ruby

12:17 pm

jan

Afternon to you teach...

12:17 pm

Nef

may I have a clue for the lone I in the 3rd row please?

12:17 pm

rubyfoo

ty, nan, that's what I thought

12:17 pm

Nef

hi wv

12:17 pm

wvteach

hello nef

12:17 pm

TraderKate

iz 4/9
hi teach

12:18 pm

rubyfoo

iz4, part of the small cute reptile

12:18 pm

Nef

thanks TK

12:18 pm

cybernan

on my way - hagd everyone - back at the flip :)

12:18 pm

MollyL

How are you feeling, Teach?

12:18 pm

wvteach

hello kate

12:18 pm

TraderKate

bye nan, thanks for the clues!

12:18 pm

rubyfoo

bye nan

12:18 pm

jan

Bye nan!

12:18 pm

wvteach

better - getting my strength back - went out this morning for the first time - so now really tired out

12:19 pm

Nef

new word for me (the iz 4)

12:19 pm

rubyfoo

I didn't know yoj'd been ill but I'm glad you're on the mend

12:20 pm

rubyfoo

this has been a long, hard winter

12:20 pm

wvteach

bad complications from the stomach flu

12:20 pm

rubyfoo

lots of flu here, too, but we've been lucky

12:21 pm

rubyfoo

Did you have a flu shot?

12:21 pm

Nef

Sorry to hear that teach; I hope you're feeling better soon

12:21 pm

bichon

hi ruby, teach, Nef

12:21 pm

bichon

sa 5/12 pls

12:22 pm

Nef

hi bichon

12:22 pm

bichon

nm

12:22 pm

rubyfoo

((bichon)) Raffie is coming on Tuesday!

12:22 pm

ChrissieDee

Wishing you well wvteach

12:22 pm

wvteach

no - but this waqs the brand of flu not covered in the vaccine - caught it from my son and daughterin law who had both had the vaccine

12:22 pm

bichon

That's today or next Tues?

12:22 pm

rubyfoo

next, today is amost over

12:23 pm

rubyfoo

I've heard of people getting flu from the shot

12:23 pm

bichon

What do you have to do to prepare. She's pretty young, rght?

12:24 pm

rubyfoo

We have a little bed for her, Purina puppy chow and have instructed Rufie to show her the ropes

12:24 pm

Nef

Sorry to correct you, ruby, but people don't get the flu from the shot; they were probably exposed to the flu before getting the shot.

12:24 pm

rubyfoo

I think she'll be 9 weeks

12:25 pm

rubyfoo

aaah, I didn't know that

12:25 pm

TraderKate

you can't get the flu from the flu shot - it is 100% killled vaccine - you could however already be infected with it but not symptomatic yet. you could also get a different strain than what is in the shot

12:25 pm

bichon

Is she house broken? I don't even know how to house break a femal

12:25 pm

Wyrd

or the shot just doesn't work, as in 91% of the elderly

12:25 pm

bichon

The elderly [me] have a lower immune system

12:26 pm

Riverdance

My Doctor told me the same thing nef when I got my flu shot. There is no live virus in the vaccine so it is impossible to get the flu from the shot. It doesn't mean you wont get the flu because it does not cover every type of flu out there.

12:26 pm

rubyfoo

we've had 6 chows and they have all been totally housebroken on arrival, even the ones who made the very long trip from Canada didn't mess their cages

12:26 pm

TraderKate

wyrd? why is that immune systems too depressed? theyalways say that the yung and old should specially get the shot

12:26 pm

rubyfoo

hello river

12:26 pm

Wyrd

i dont know kate, i don't think the shots are as effective as they let on

12:27 pm

Riverdance

Hello everyone

12:27 pm

Wyrd

my last doctor told me the only shot she would get was polio, and she wasn't so sure about the effectiveness of it

12:27 pm

TraderKate

hi river

12:27 pm

Nef

the flu shots made from dead viruses; but they are mainly the upper respiratory flu viruses. The stomach flu is from a different type of virus such as the noro virus (from what I've read). I don't know if they've been able to make a vaccine for that yet.

12:27 pm

Wyrd

remember, vaccines are the corner stone to big pharma money

12:27 pm

bichon

I guess Chows and Bichons don't have that in common. Bichons, especially males are very difficult to totally housebreak

12:27 pm

jan

It's true that older people have weaker immune systems, but they still can derive at least partial immunity from the serum. And given that tens of thousands die from flu every year, mainly the elderly, it's important that older people give themselves the best possible chances.

12:27 pm

Wyrd

getting off her soapbox now!

12:28 pm

rubyfoo

our Rufus once went 26 hours without goig out because he didn't like the rain

12:28 pm

bichon

Mine won't poop if it's raining out. They'll go for a day.

12:29 pm

bichon

That's me, the elderly. But, I've never had the flu.

12:30 pm

Nef

Wyrd, if it wasn't for vaccines we'd see polio, diphtheria, measles and mumps killing so many people today. I can name about 10 of my grade school classmates who had handicaps from childhood diseases.

12:30 pm

jan

Count yourself lucky. A neighbor down the street from us died of flu two years ago. She was in her early seventies. I still miss her.

12:30 pm

rubyfoo

they hide when they poop, never saw Ruby poop in 10 years

12:30 pm

Wyrd

i know plenty of children who have suffered from those vaccines, not sure the cost always pans out

12:31 pm

Wyrd

i prefer a naturally developed immune system.. i won't ever get a flu or shingles shot

12:31 pm

bichon

When we first got M&P, they would run down into the basement to do their business. Had to learn to make sure the door was always shut. Now, they're okay

12:31 pm

Nef

And the flu vaccines for this year are effective for about 70% of the elderly.

12:31 pm

bichon

I've had Shingles and deifinitely never want to get it again. So, got the shot.

12:32 pm

rubyfoo

Raffie is pretty Young, but I'm keeping my fingers crossed

12:32 pm

rubyfoo

I didn't know you could get shingles twice

12:32 pm

bichon

Since I have asthma, my doctor insists that I get a shot

12:33 pm

bichon

Speaking of which, time for walkies. BBL

12:33 pm

rubyfoo

bye bichon

12:33 pm

MollyL

It's a never ending debate about flu shots. I know so many people who have gotten the flu after getting the shot. I'm not a big believer in flu shots, so I stay away from them.

12:33 pm

Nef

ruby, my younger sister had it twice (the second time in her eye) before she was 60 and her doctor still wouldn't give her the shot til she was 60.

12:34 pm

TraderKate

bye bichon
can anyone point me in the right direction for the sa 5/12, sa 6/21 (cjombo?)

12:34 pm

Wyrd

so true molly.. here is an article that says 60% and thats in the regular population

12:34 pm

Wyrd

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/\n27/flu-shot-only-59-percent-effective_\nn_1032916.html

12:34 pm

Wyrd

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/\n27/flu-shot-only-59-percent-effective_\nn_1032916.html

12:34 pm

Wyrd

trying to find the one i was reading about the lower percentage among the elderly, haven't yet

12:36 pm

Wyrd

http://current.com/community/94059856_\nshock-cdc-study-flu-vaccine-ineffectiv\ne-in-91-of-seniors.htm

12:36 pm

Wyrd

well there are many actually

12:36 pm

rubyfoo

that is terrible about your sister, nef. My father had shingles once and it's the only time anyone ever saw him cry

12:37 pm

rubyfoo

but it was before there was a vaccine

12:40 pm

rubyfoo

good night everybody

12:40 pm

Wyrd

nite ruby!

12:41 pm

TraderKate

gn ruby, sweet dreams

12:42 pm

periwinkle

hi all, back from my 2nd collage class. the instructor is very good and she is funny as well. I am starting to get the hang of it. there are so many things that can incorporated into a collage.

12:42 pm

TraderKate

hi peri, sounds like you had fun!

12:43 pm

periwinkle

I had a mild case of shingles many years ago. did not know you could get it again. not sure if I want the vaccine tho

12:43 pm

periwinkle

I am very critical of any work I do but the instructor and others students were very supportive and encouraging

12:43 pm

Wyrd

peri you can even get chicken pox repeatedly, even with the vaccine

12:43 pm

Wyrd

i have the kid to prove it

12:44 pm

TraderKate

the shingles can "hide out" for years in your system, then re-emerge.... related to shicken pox

12:45 pm

EvaNadine

i had chicken pox when i was 6 months old. the doctors have told me many times i could get it again, as i was too young for my immune system to build up against it.

12:45 pm

Wyrd

i had only a polio vaccine as a child, the only childhood illness i ever had was a mild case of chicken pox

12:45 pm

Wyrd

one of my kids had minimal shots and no diseases, the other one had all the shots and caught everything, a compromised immune system

12:46 pm

periwinkle

as a child I had chicken pox, german measles, and whopping cough

12:46 pm

Wyrd

the whooping cough cases we have in oregon are mostly from immunized children

12:50 pm

windingwake

imagine how many more cases you'd have if nobody immunized, though.

12:51 pm

TraderKate

3 to go, but they are elusive, i will take 5 to clear my befuddled brain...

12:52 pm

Wyrd

I don't believe that winding

12:52 pm

Wyrd

i think that our medical system is basically run rampant and frankly I don't buy their self made statistics

12:53 pm

Wyrd

its like they make things up then they force them on you.. i just hate it

12:53 pm

windingwake

I can see you don't. I do though--some immunizations going wrong enough to lead to sickness, versus most kids catching most things. Thank you, but no.

12:54 pm

Wyrd

and you most certainly have the right to decide for yourself

12:55 pm

windingwake

I do. May I ask that we move on, though? This is frankly a ragemaking subject for me.

12:55 pm

Wyrd

i only get mad about differences of opinion when my government tries to decide for me whats best

12:56 pm

Wyrd

it is a touchy subject. of which there are many

12:58 pm

windingwake

thank you.

1:04 pm

MollyL

Thanks for your input Wyrd, it is appreciated.

1:04 pm

Wyrd

aww.. thanks Molly

1:08 pm

TraderKate

can anyone point me in the right direction for the sa 5/12, sa 6/21 (combo?)

1:08 pm

TraderKate

it must use the u or the m, but i don't see it

1:09 pm

Wyrd

the 5/12 i have is like old english, biblical

1:09 pm

Wyrd

so sa*** the lord

1:10 pm

helensgirlkid

sa 5/12 very old fashioned version of "speaks"; sa 6/21 closely related spelling - archaic word for a fish, however! No "u" involved

1:11 pm

TraderKate

i was trying to spell it with an e rather than an i :(
thanks for that one wordz!

1:11 pm

Wyrd

and ty for the other one helens

1:11 pm

TraderKate

*wyrd*, sorry

1:11 pm

Wyrd

:) lol

1:13 pm

TraderKate

thank you wyrd and helen, got them. i thought i had monkeyed everything. did try the h but wasn't getting asnywhere with it.... now for my very last word- which i have also hunted in vaain for!

1:13 pm

helensgirlkid

When in doubt, stick an "e" on the end, just in case! Admittedly it doesn't work very often, but when it does, makes me feel very puffed.

1:15 pm

TraderKate

finally monkeyed the last word!!!! fireworks for the first time in ages :))
thank yu all for your excellent clues

1:15 pm

helensgirlkid

At last thought of the card game for my last "wh". Good luck, all!

1:16 pm

TraderKate

i will remember that helen, there are so many little tricks that help with this game

1:16 pm

Wyrd

i know helen, i should have noticed that e

1:17 pm

Nef

Sorry, Had to go out and move my car (after uncovering it from the foot of snow; then; once I got in, the dog had to go out and I had to shovel a path for him.

1:18 pm

TraderKate

poor nef, now she has no energy for babbling...

1:18 pm

MollyL

Are you kidding? Nef is the Energizer Bunny.

1:20 pm

TraderKate

my apologies, no insult was intended lol

1:21 pm

Nef

I'm tired! Just now catching my breath!

1:22 pm

TraderKate

1:22 pm

Nef

And while I was outside; I just found DH in the garage messing with power tools!

1:23 pm

Nef

thanks for the tea, TK.

1:23 pm

TraderKate

first he's trying to shovel, now he wants to build things? goodness!

1:24 pm

Nef

I have no idea what he's thinking! He doesn't TOUCH my circular saw!

1:24 pm

TraderKate

crumpets dripping with melted butter and homemade strawberry preserves....would you like some clotted cream as well? (canyou tell i'm hungry?)

1:25 pm

Nef

(He's not safe with power tools anymore; we gave away "HIS" power tools, all we have left are "My" powere drill, and small circular saw.

1:25 pm

TraderKate

hehehe keep your manly paws off my tools...

1:26 pm

TraderKate

what's he up to? just bored?

1:27 pm

Nef

Yeah. Back when he had his tools he used to joke about my smaller set of tools. My circular saw has a 6 or 7 inch blad; so it looked puny next to his.

1:28 pm

Nef

We redid the kitchen and he thinks he can put in an extra shelf on the one lower cabinet.

1:29 pm

MollyL

Nef, he is like a little kid, you always have to see what he's up to.

1:29 pm

Nef

TK, I just re-read your post about the clotted cream and crumpets. I have no idea what they are; but it's time for lunch here too! So they sound good! :-)

1:29 pm

TraderKate

good heavens! man out of control!!! stop him before he hurts the new kitchen!!!!

1:29 pm

TraderKate

you don't know what a crumpet is?

1:30 pm

Nef

I know, Molly. I try to keep a tight rein on him most of the time. But who knew he was just waiting for me to go out and shovel a path for the dog?

1:30 pm

Nef

I don't know what a crumpet is. :-(

1:32 pm

TraderKate

http://tinyurl.com/bc94u7u

1:33 pm

Nef

so they are similar to what we call English Muffins?

1:34 pm

TraderKate

http://tinyurl.com/avt5fol

1:35 pm

Nef

Oh My! And you expect me to Babble while drooling all over the keyboard? ;-)

1:36 pm

TraderKate

not at all like an english muffin texture is totally different. i must go run an errand, a friend has come to give me a ride. i will return...and technically clotted cream goes with scones - for the purists out there. be back in a bit!

1:36 pm

TraderKate

*poof*

1:36 pm

Nef

BYE, Kate!

1:39 pm

Nef

My soup is hot, BBS

1:44 pm

MollyL

Scones are nothing like English muffins, and clotted cream is nothing like cream cheese.

1:45 pm

MollyL

Oh, and beg your pardon, crumpets are nothing like English muffins either.

1:46 pm

Nef

back. I guess I haven't ever tried much English food; so I really don't know, Molly.

1:49 pm

Wyrd

what are crumpets like Molly?

1:49 pm

Wyrd

I've never had english food either

1:52 pm

MollyL

Oh, maybe a cross between a pancake and an English muffin. They aren't crispy like English muffins, more spongy.

1:53 pm

Wyrd

hmmm.. interesting, and ty

1:53 pm

Nef

I've just read back in the archives; and if Wryd is still on; I'd like to say that my son and daughter-in-law are WAY off in left field about their son (my precious almost 4 year old grandson). My DIL doesn't believe in most of the run of the mill normal medicines; but when Ronnie was 9 months old he got very ill and they ended up in the ER with IV's and antibiotics, etc. and the whole topic of vaccines is a touchy subject for us.
I apologize if I got too forceful; and I did read your 1 article but not the 2nd one (that's when I had to go move my car). I was trying to find a more current atricle for you when I got called away.

1:54 pm

Wyrd

My experiences with my children have been just the opposite Nef, we all speak from what we think we know, nothing wrong with being passionate and sharing information

1:54 pm

Nef

really, Molly? I'll have to go find someplace that serves them then. There is a place that does and English high tea; would they be served there? (I'd never get DH to go, however.)

1:55 pm

Wyrd

One of my children had seizures as a reaction to the DPT shots, the medications they forced on him turned him into a drooling zombie

1:56 pm

Wyrd

instead of checking him out to see if he was suffering a reaction, they continued another one later and induced seizures again, plus many auto immune troubles

1:56 pm

moolingwa

Crumpets are like bland sponge like chewy bread

1:56 pm

moolingwa

but you put butter or sweet syrups on them, they're great

1:56 pm

Wyrd

i was young and they threatened to take my child if i did not continue on the course they prescribed, later several other doctors confirmed that it was the vaccines

1:56 pm

moolingwa

some of the US grocery stores carry them in frozen or fresh bread section

1:57 pm

Wyrd

so since then its been a big issue for me, i have several friends who are doctors as well, I am not without information on this subject

1:58 pm

Nef

interesting, wryd. I'm allergic to a number of odd things; it makes me mad that the doc wouldn't listen to you.

1:58 pm

moolingwa

we have basically put our own vaccine schedule together for our little one

1:59 pm

Wyrd

well doctors are taught a certain way, for them to err is to possibly lose their license

1:59 pm

Nef

And thanks for that information, mooling. I'll have to look when we go shopping.

1:59 pm

moolingwa

seemed like the vaccine schedule was partly concocted for convenience, so didn't hurt us to go in more often

1:59 pm

Wyrd

its for money

1:59 pm

moolingwa

we dumped our midwife a couple of days before delivery...that was harrowing

2:00 pm

Wyrd

look into who performs these trials, who regulates the vaccines, and how much money is involved

2:01 pm

Nef

Mooling, my son and DIL and I have chosen to use the Danish vaccine schedule. Here, the US vaccine schedule now says something like 32-36 doses of vaccines before the age of 3. The Danish system spreads them out over 5 years so the child is vaccinated before they enter Kindergarten

2:01 pm

moolingwa

familiar with it

2:01 pm

moolingwa

we did a lot of reviewing ourselves

2:01 pm

Wyrd

here is one hard core conspiracy site, yet it has some good info

2:01 pm

Wyrd

http://polioforever.wordpress.com/

2:03 pm

Wyrd

someday they will invent a vaccine for being a smart alec and the government will force me to take it :(

2:04 pm

MollyL

And the world will be a far less interesting place.

2:04 pm

Wyrd

hehehe

2:05 pm

moolingwa

I feel the whole autism caused by vaccines crowd really set back reasonable discussion on vaccines

2:05 pm

Wyrd

i welcome them mooling

2:06 pm

LuvB

ams

2:07 pm

moolingwa

with that said, there are a lot of arrogant scientists and doctors

2:07 pm

moolingwa

it's okay to be confident, but you need to remain humble

2:07 pm

Wyrd

why? lol

2:08 pm

Wyrd

i think we need to be open to whats possibly the truth

2:08 pm

moolingwa

that's my point

2:08 pm

Wyrd

personally i think autism is the result of many forms of poisoning, vaccines are one possibility

2:08 pm

Nef

Wyrd, I'll agree to disagree with you on this topic. I have learned (from dealing with my DIL) that I need to read ALL sides of an argument because she uses some bizarre sources to support her ideas. I look at information based on research and evidence-based outcomes.

2:08 pm

moolingwa

but we need to be pragmatic rather than emotional about it

2:09 pm

moolingwa

the whole idea of scientific method is that anything can be challenged, but you have to come up with a way to challenge it

2:09 pm

moolingwa

simply saying "I believe" this, or "it could be this" doesn't further understanding unless you can test it

2:09 pm

moolingwa

otherwise it comes down to an unprovable faith discussion

2:09 pm

Nef

I agree with you on both the autism/vaccine crowd and the arrogant docs, mooling

2:10 pm

Wyrd

me too Nef, but i also question who is doing the research

2:11 pm

moolingwa

Well chances are the research on vaccines is published somewhere

2:11 pm

Nef

I think that evidence-based outcomes is becoming more common and that is helping with the research. If someone says that they conducted research in this area and got these results, then others should also get the same results.

2:12 pm

moolingwa

Or perhaps you can request it of the FDA

2:12 pm

Wyrd

well sure, but many times, its research done by the very company who will profit from the solution to the problem, and they aren't very well regulated

2:12 pm

Wyrd

kind of like.. a monsanto employee hired by the government to regulate.. gmo foods

2:12 pm

moolingwa

Then find the gaps in regulation and petition your government

2:13 pm

Wyrd

not alot of trust there ya know?

2:13 pm

moolingwa

or go to universities with your thesis and have them investigate it

2:13 pm

Wyrd

well its been 100 years since the invention of modern medicine, that hasn't worked so far

2:14 pm

susanj2

Wryd, I understand your point. My daughter is against most vaccines, and is not getting them for her boys. The 1st grader just has an exemption in his file, so he's fine to attend class without them.

2:14 pm

Wyrd

the problem for me is they invent a problem, come up with a solution, and force it upon us

2:14 pm

moolingwa

I disagree Wyrd

2:14 pm

moolingwa

there's a lot of examples where medicine has helped

2:14 pm

Nef

the guy who said that vaccines cause autism was really a strange "researcher" who wasn't supposed to touch the children. He preformed all sorts of (what I call) medical terrorism on subjects he hand picked who already had some symptoms of autism.

2:14 pm

Wyrd

susan, they are trying to pass laws to stop people from exempting their children from vaccines for any reason

2:15 pm

moolingwa

There are risks on both sides of the equation

2:15 pm

moolingwa

What you need to prove to legislators is that one risk is greater than the otehr

2:15 pm

Wyrd

switch the subject from vaccines, replace it with mental illness... same sh** .. different day

2:15 pm

Nef

there are indeed.

2:16 pm

susanj2

If vaccine exemptions aren't allowed in the future, for kids in class, I know my daughter will home school. She will not give in.

2:16 pm

Nef

Wyrd, my DIL is bipolar and just spent the better part of the last 2 weeks in the psych hospital for that. Let's not even go there please.

2:17 pm

moolingwa

My wife and I made an educated decision based on the information we had before us...that's the best any of us can do who are not intimately involved with every step of these things

2:17 pm

Wyrd

you are your best advocate mooling

2:17 pm

moolingwa

We're considering home schooling for other reasons than vaccines...primarily concern over quality of education available. It's a sad state of affairs...

2:18 pm

Wyrd

im with you on that

2:18 pm

Wyrd

seems like schools take a very oppositional stance to parents these days

2:18 pm

Nef

I'm an RN, mooling. And that is the best anyone can do. You take the information; examine it and then decide.

2:19 pm

moolingwa

There's an interesting article that you might find interesting: http://blog.ted.com/2013/02/26/a-schoo\nl-in-the-cloud-sugata-mitra-accepts-th\ne-ted-prize-at-ted2013/

A school in the cloud: Sugata Mitra accepted the TED Prize at TED2013

2:19 pm

Nef

And Wyrd, you've decided to do what you've done based on your experiences too. I don't fault you for that.

2:19 pm

mcurlschool

I work in the education system and I completely agree that the state of our educational systems is poor, poor, poor.

2:19 pm

moolingwa

Well my wife is a math teacher, and so we have that angle as well

2:20 pm

Wyrd

thank you Nef

2:20 pm

moolingwa

School is being driven by too many metrics, and our way of learning isn't consistent between individuals nor is it easily quantifiable

2:21 pm

Wyrd

i don't want school deciding how to raise my children, that's my job

2:21 pm

moolingwa

politicians, who in many cases are not well informed are driving education policy which is then shaped by academics who aren't really held accountable for their viewpoints

2:22 pm

Nef

mooling, the site won't open, can you use tiny url.com to make it open (for some reason, babble adds extra letters and symbols to long urls these days)

2:22 pm

mcurlschool

our state has pushed the schools into focusing stricting on reading and math; our students get writing, social studies and science IF a teacher wants to squeeze it in the 30 left over minutes of the pre-scheduled subjects

2:22 pm

moolingwa

sure

2:22 pm

Wyrd

they tried to back door home schooling in oregon.. making kids do it on the computer, and they end up watching the same drivel for 8 hours on a computer

2:22 pm

moolingwa

http://tinyurl.com/a9ad584

2:22 pm

Wyrd

Nef, i googled the headline and got the right link

2:22 pm

mcurlschool

If my children were in school now, I would seriously consider home schooling.

2:23 pm

Wyrd

its an interesting article

2:23 pm

moolingwa

Definitely a de-emphasis on the arts, crafts and physical side mcurl

2:24 pm

moolingwa

It's a philosophy that I've been gravitating towards, an interesting sound bite of a broader thinking

2:25 pm

Wyrd

it just seems to me that government institutions .. committees.. whatever, were created for a function, that they no longer deliver, but instead of have turned into another long arm of the law

2:25 pm

Wyrd

big money making scam

2:26 pm

moolingwa

Well...I somewhat disagree

2:26 pm

moolingwa

If you read history, I think you'll find that government has been influenced by money for all time

2:26 pm

Wyrd

well right, you kind of make my point there

2:27 pm

moolingwa

in many ways you could argue that we're becoming less influenced over time as more of these scandals are unearthed, and checks and balances are put in place

2:27 pm

Wyrd

i guess i don't see that this has happened

2:27 pm

moolingwa

If you've got the patience, there's a book written by an English historian, called A History of the American people

2:27 pm

Wyrd

i love to read, ty

2:27 pm

moolingwa

that's because you have a small window you're looking at

2:27 pm

moolingwa

if you look at it over a longer period of time you can see improvements

2:28 pm

moolingwa

it's just not a linear progression

2:28 pm

moolingwa

same for medicine

2:28 pm

Wyrd

i don't believe i do have a small window, i just think they play a magic game with us and pretend to fix problems

2:28 pm

moolingwa

Well there is certainly some of that going on right now

2:29 pm

Wyrd

i believe who ever has the money makes the rules

2:29 pm

moolingwa

There was a mayor in Philadelphia who actually seemed to manufacture his own crises and then solve them

2:29 pm

Wyrd

and we should always be suspicious of those in power, its what will keep them humble

2:30 pm

moolingwa

Well there's plenty of government examples where it's not money so much as the "system" that keeps some in power

2:30 pm

Nef

I agree Moolimg

2:30 pm

moolingwa

I don't disagree with you on that point Wyrd

2:30 pm

Wyrd

I'm not sure i see the difference

2:30 pm

Wyrd

i pretty much agree with everything you say as well mooling

2:30 pm

moolingwa

Well for instance take a monarchy

2:31 pm

moolingwa

like Saudi Arabia

2:31 pm

moolingwa

or Jordan

2:31 pm

moolingwa

they are born into their position...others use religion to manipulate, like Iran

2:32 pm

Wyrd

yes, but they are also not only influenced, but also hold their position due to a bigger, richer country who can back them up or take them out

2:32 pm

moolingwa

The ultimate commonality I think you can say, the ones in power get to make the rules

2:32 pm

Wyrd

right

2:33 pm

Wyrd

one of my fav books that i have read in the last few years was "Confessions of an Economic Hitman"

2:33 pm

moolingwa

Gerrymandering is a great example in many democratic countries

2:33 pm

Nef

and yet, most Iranians aren't that religious (at least according to my dear friend who is Iranian). When you are forced to study Islam or be beaten and possibly killed; you study Islam.

2:33 pm

moolingwa

but the US also has the way Federeal Judges get appointed

2:33 pm

Wyrd

thats exactly right Nef

2:34 pm

moolingwa

I would tend to agree to an extent...Religion is the subtext that got them in power though...organizing against the Shah, who was none too popular

2:34 pm

moolingwa

Iran in some ways is like Venezeula...they pander to the poor to keep the middle class and wealthy under their control

2:35 pm

Wyrd

well mooling, I have a friend who's father worked for the shah, they said things got much worse after he was gone

2:35 pm

moolingwa

in Iran it's more religiously motivated, in Venezeula they use almost a communist line of the "rich foreigners and their lackeys"

2:35 pm

Wyrd

the new regime made it a crime to even sing happy birthday for instance

2:35 pm

moolingwa

I think it's all a matter of perspective Wyrd

2:36 pm

moolingwa

You could argue the same in Iraq after the US overthrew Hussein

2:36 pm

Wyrd

well it might be a matter of media as well

2:36 pm

Nef

he was put inpower by the US. They wanted him out, and Iatollah Kolmani (sp?) was the person to put in bythe people. But pwoer corrupts; and absolute power absolutely corrupts.

2:36 pm

Wyrd

hard to find the real truth sometimes

2:36 pm

moolingwa

There's a trade off

2:36 pm

Wyrd

and mooling, since we were once buddies with Hussein, its not an invalid arguement

2:36 pm

moolingwa

A totalitarian regime provides stability, but limits personal freedoms

2:37 pm

Wyrd

right

2:37 pm

moolingwa

democracy in many ways is chaotic, especially if you don't have the institutions and the respect for law

2:37 pm

moolingwa

it's a hard transition that takes many decades in most instances

2:38 pm

Wyrd

i don't see our so called democracy working so well.. i wonder about mob rule too

2:38 pm

moolingwa

The US has had plenty of challenges, and had to basically set up from scratch

2:38 pm

Wyrd

i guess im more of a very small government type of person

2:39 pm

Nef

I feel like too small of government is chaotic; too large of a government is dangerous.

2:40 pm

Nef

We have a lot of checks and balances in our system; but I think that big money is making some changes in the system

2:41 pm

Nef

and they are changes no one can predict yet.

2:41 pm

Wyrd

well i agree on the dangerous part

2:41 pm

Wyrd

and i think in the US that is what we are dealing with right now

2:42 pm

Wyrd

probably the world but that's my judgement from what i hear, I see mostly what goes on in my neck of the woods

2:43 pm

Nef

I don't. I think that the media is manipulating a lot of people who don't get their information anywhere except from the media and they believe what the talking heads on TV say. I don't; I go back and read the law; I talk to my representatives (that's what they are there for: to represent us!) etc.

2:45 pm

Wyrd

well that's very true for me as well

2:45 pm

Nef

When you look at our media; it's very divisive right now: you have CNN for the very liberal and FOX for the conservatives. It drives me crazy when people believe everything that is said on those channels

2:45 pm

Michnick

I hate to be a party pooper but, Could I have clues for the O's, I am drawing a very big blank.

2:46 pm

Wyrd

lol

2:47 pm

BzznBea

om5/12 - om + two little words found in a simile.

2:47 pm

Michnick

(And that's coming from someone who lives in a country that can't even get its act together to HAVE a government!!)

2:47 pm

Nef

hi Mich. I only have 4 so far (chatting too much!) om 5/12 = O + m*** hirina and or 4/4 ; the os 4/4 and os 9/60

2:47 pm

Wyrd

os 9 = chest, building, well, or site made to serve as the final resting place of human skeletal remains

2:48 pm

Wyrd

oh you have that one

2:48 pm

Michnick

Yikes, I don't have any O's and I am not getting any?!

2:49 pm

lynxxx

oa4.4 a type of old round house in the UK

2:49 pm

Nef

os 4/4 means bones; os 9 builds from the 1st 3 letters of the os 4

2:51 pm

lynxxx

another os4.4 is a mountain range

2:52 pm

lynxxx

or5.10 like Mo**** dancing - traditional and somewhat odd costumed dancing of the UK

2:52 pm

Michnick

Gosh, i am feeling dumber and dumber, can someone either dumb down or Americanize these clues?

2:53 pm

lynxxx

oa4.4 anagram of the grain they make porridge with

2:53 pm

Nef

I need to take DH to his Physical Therapy appt. now. BBL. Happy Babbling, Everyone! :-)

2:54 pm

Michnick

thanks lynxx

2:55 pm

lynxxx

bye Nef

2:55 pm

BzznBea

or5 - or + morning light is sun***e

2:55 pm

BzznBea

When the sun comes up

2:55 pm

lynxxx

or5 do you know Van M*****on?

2:57 pm

Michnick

One more, thanks lynxx

2:57 pm

BzznBea

os9 - os + **mmer follows spring + the zodiac ram

2:57 pm

Wyrd

or 5 is a root you get at the health food store

2:59 pm

Michnick

Yeah, bzz, I would never have gotten that without your great hint!!

2:59 pm

BzznBea

yw

3:01 pm

Michnick

i guess I am just too tired, time to turn in, g'night all!

3:02 pm

lynxxx

goodnight Mich

3:11 pm

lynxxx

Bye everyone

3:36 pm

jmcnrick

bye lynxxx

3:36 pm

jmcnrick

hi all

3:36 pm

TraderKate

it's been quite a day for serious discussion today... what did you guys put in your corn flakes?

3:37 pm

TraderKate

hi jmc

3:37 pm

MollyL

Serious discussion is good, it makes you think. Nice break from fluffy discussion.

3:39 pm

TraderKate

does anyone need any clues? i have to go in about 20 minutes - closing time
very true molly, i usually enjoy the give and take of the chats here. i sepecially like that people are respectful of others' points of view :)

3:40 pm

jmcnrick

but i just fluffed my brain. . .

3:40 pm

jmcnrick

i like serious chats when people can be respectful. . .

3:41 pm

TraderKate

i should fluff my brain too, sounds comfy

3:41 pm

MollyL

Well then, what would you like to discuss? The Kardashians or handbags?

3:41 pm

TraderKate

who are the kardashians anyway??????

3:41 pm

jmcnrick

*gag*

3:41 pm

jmcnrick

i said fluffy not stupid. . .

3:41 pm

TraderKate

i would like to discuss choclits

3:42 pm

jmcnrick

oooo lets discuss choclits. . . i like dark with sea salt. . .

3:42 pm

TraderKate

3:42 pm

jmcnrick

i am missing 2 Os

3:42 pm

TraderKate

mmmmmmm i love turtles......

3:43 pm

TraderKate

would you like o word clues?

3:43 pm

jmcnrick

good plan trader. . . if i was not such a pure little quaker i would help you thump

3:43 pm

jmcnrick

i have oa4 om5 or 4 or 5 os 4 and os9

3:44 pm

jmcnrick

i used to like turtles but they is too sweet for me now

3:45 pm

TraderKate

os 4/4 the odd couple - felix and **c**

3:46 pm

jmcnrick

ty ty

3:46 pm

TraderKate

os 4/4 root of the os 9/60

3:46 pm

jmcnrick

have that one only need one from the other O

3:46 pm

TraderKate

or 4/4 what you find in a mine

3:47 pm

jmcnrick

keep going. . . .

3:47 pm

TraderKate

or 4/4 or + egyptian sun god, sorry can't see a good clue for it

3:47 pm

jmcnrick

that was it! ty ty

3:48 pm

TraderKate

i think that should cover what you're missing

3:48 pm

jmcnrick

boths Os are grey

3:48 pm

TraderKate

you're most welcome jmc :))

3:49 pm

jmcnrick

i don't know why i care but sometimes it feels like such a victory. . .

3:49 pm

jmcnrick

brb must let cat in before the storm hits

3:49 pm

TraderKate

any other clues needed? i have about 10 minutes left
i also love choclit caramels and choclit covered nuts and all things choclit... except choclit covered turkish taffy

3:49 pm

MollyL

I thought you were refusing to believe in snow before Wednesday.

3:50 pm

TraderKate

it is a victory jmc, some of the babble battles are very hard-won!

3:50 pm

MollyL

Chocolate is good, chocolate is great, we all love chocolate.

3:51 pm

TraderKate

it's one of the 4 major food grouups!

3:51 pm

jmcnrick

its rain that i am protecting my cat from

3:51 pm

jmcnrick

i like mole sauce

3:52 pm

TraderKate

clue for the om 5/12..... bin laden's name with the consonants switched!

3:52 pm

TraderKate

mmmmm mole :))

3:53 pm

jmcnrick

exactly

3:53 pm

TraderKate

are you finished jmc?

3:53 pm

periwinkle

hi all, I tried the clue for the os9 but it did not work

3:53 pm

jmcnrick

nah i have 97 left. . . i work a while. . .babble a while. . . repeat. . . .

3:54 pm

TraderKate

kahlua and hot fudge over french vanilla ice cream with pralined pecans sprinkled liberally on top.....

3:55 pm

periwinkle

help with the 8 pls and would someone be kind enough to reclue the 9

3:55 pm

jmcnrick

os+choclit ***ce over ice cream is good+TK t**** to make me hungary sometimes

3:55 pm

TraderKate

hi peri, root of the os 4/4 then left and diagonally down will get you most of it it is a plural

3:55 pm

Jillyjill

Hello all!

3:55 pm

jmcnrick

the 8 is we8=the most tired

3:55 pm

jmcnrick

hi jilly

3:55 pm

TraderKate

the 8 is most tired

3:56 pm

periwinkle

ty for the we8

3:56 pm

TraderKate

the os 9 is a repository for human bones (pl)

3:56 pm

Jillyjill

yes...ty!!

3:56 pm

jmcnrick

I gets we**y and tired of trying. . . tired of living but scared of dieing . . . .

3:56 pm

jmcnrick

yw

3:57 pm

periwinkle

*sigh* I am not getting the 2nd part of your clue for the os jmc

3:57 pm

jmcnrick

and ol'man river he just keeps rollin along. . ..

3:57 pm

periwinkle

TK what?

3:58 pm

jmcnrick

when she cuts onions she c****

3:58 pm

TraderKate

i must go now. see you all tomorrow. happy babbling!
os +basket ball position- point g***d then add a pl ending

3:58 pm

starryjess

you have to switch the vowels in the choclit ***ce

3:59 pm

jmcnrick

bye trader and thanks for the help

3:59 pm

periwinkle

yeah, I just figure that out

3:59 pm

periwinkle

got it ty

3:59 pm

jmcnrick

oh dear sorry my bad spelling messed it up

3:59 pm

jmcnrick

hi starry

3:59 pm

starryjess

hi jmc

3:59 pm

periwinkle

it had me totally confused jmc

4:00 pm

jmcnrick

*hangs head*

4:01 pm

periwinkle

it is ok, I figure out

4:02 pm

Jillyjill

Not quite as easy as yesterday...but nbt/nbs

4:02 pm

jmcnrick

wd jilly

4:07 pm

MollyL

I'm guessing you make molay from choclit and mole from chocolate. : P

4:08 pm

jmcnrick

haha maybe so

4:09 pm

MollyL

Ah, Pepco is making their pre-recorded "sorry if your power goes out" rounds.

4:10 pm

jmcnrick

yes they called me about an hour ago. . .

4:10 pm

jmcnrick

you'd think they would start out where the storm is going to hit first and work their way in . . . .

4:11 pm

jmcnrick

but if they were smart they wouldn't need to make these stupid calls. . .

4:11 pm

MollyL

I agree. And I hate it when the forecast is for heavy, wet snow because it doubles your chances for losing power.

4:12 pm

Jillyjill

Yipes, certainly hope you both will NOT lose power!!

4:13 pm

jmcnrick

probably not

4:13 pm

jmcnrick

but heavy wet snow does increase the likelyhood

4:13 pm

SeaSpray

Hello everyone

4:14 pm

jmcnrick

but i figure with all the storms in the last few years there aren't as many dangling limbs...they already broke

4:14 pm

Jillyjill

Hello seaspray!

4:14 pm

jmcnrick

hi sea

4:15 pm

SeaSpray

BGE making their calls as well

4:15 pm

Jillyjill

brb

4:15 pm

jmcnrick

no one wants to look worse than pepco

4:15 pm

periwinkle

this is a tough grid for me

4:15 pm

periwinkle

bbl

4:15 pm

SeaSpray

Seems like a waste of time to me...common sense

4:15 pm

jmcnrick

bye peri

4:16 pm

jmcnrick

. . . is not common. . . ;-)

4:16 pm

jmcnrick

besides i don't think the computers mind taking the time

4:16 pm

SeaSpray

lol you are sooo right jmc

4:17 pm

SeaSpray

probably not

4:17 pm

jmcnrick

hmm looks like they are predicting the snow earlier than before

4:17 pm

jmcnrick

now it is predicted at 10 pm. . .

4:18 pm

SeaSpray

still sunny here

4:18 pm

MollyL

The grocery stores must be packed. I'm so glad I'm all done with that.

4:19 pm

MollyL

Aw Sea, what a cute picture.

4:19 pm

jmcnrick

clouding up here in DC. . . yeah I did my weekly run. . .don't need to go buy anything

4:20 pm

Jillyjill

sitz is too a word....

4:20 pm

MollyL

When I was at the grocery store yesterday, I heard this woman say to her son "Get the big cart, not the little one. We're snow shopping." What a laugh.

4:20 pm

SeaSpray

Thank you Molly...the little one turned a year old in February..my daughter is so proud and such a good Mom

4:21 pm

jmcnrick

haha she will get snow for free tomorrow!

4:21 pm

Jillyjill

She must have had a good example for a mother seaspray!

4:22 pm

MollyL

Sitz is German.

4:22 pm

jmcnrick

and there are never foreign words in the grid. . . .

4:22 pm

MollyL

Only the ones the nit pickety Enablers like.

4:22 pm

SeaSpray

I tried my best Jilly...my son in law says she does everything like I do..I wasn't sure how to take that lol

4:23 pm

Jillyjill

Well, there are certainly a lot of foreign words that appear in grids... ;)

4:23 pm

jmcnrick

i would take as the compliment it is!

4:24 pm

MollyL

My favorite is that Enable will take merde (French for shit) but not merci (French for thank you)

4:24 pm

Jillyjill

That is a good one molly!

4:24 pm

SeaSpray

it takes english shit doesn

4:24 pm

SeaSpray

oops...doesn't it

4:25 pm

Jillyjill

and all the fecal et als!

4:25 pm

SeaSpray

so I guess french is ok

4:28 pm

Jillyjill

Okay, just ran across mo5/12...spanish for hill...

4:28 pm

jmcnrick

and anything fairly vulgar. . .

4:28 pm

MollyL

It takes English shit

4:28 pm

Jillyjill

Like female and male anatomical terms...

4:28 pm

MollyL

I like "fecal et als" : D

4:29 pm

jmcnrick

okay i am off to do some work. . . bbl. . . 84 left

4:29 pm

Jillyjill

LOL...it's my life!

4:30 pm

Jillyjill

See you later jmc!

4:34 pm

Jillyjill

Well, better than half way, I too shall stop for awhile..happy babbling all!

4:35 pm

SeaSpray

bye to those leaving

5:06 pm

Philliam

bye

5:06 pm

smores

Hi again

5:30 pm

ChampFit

Hi everyone

5:31 pm

ChampFit

Crud...missed jmc?

6:03 pm

Nef

hi Champ (if you're still here)

6:04 pm

ChampFit

Ni Nef! wandering around, but still here too...

6:06 pm

Nef

Just got back from a bunch of running around with DH: his P.T. appt., put gas in car, stopped at bank and grocery store. Now trying to figure out what to do for supper.

6:07 pm

ChampFit

When I'm late, it's easy to do breakfast for dinner. Hubs likes that!

6:07 pm

Nef

Any ideas? (I really am not in much of a cooking mood; I should go "forage" in the freezer and see what looks good.)

6:07 pm

Nef

Cheerios? ;-)

6:08 pm

ChampFit

Heck yeah! With a nice merlot! (ugh....that sounds ick!)

6:09 pm

Jillyjill

Egg dishes, pancakes...always good for dinner! Hello nef and champfit!

6:09 pm

Nef

It does sound bad! I have some stella pasta I was going to fix, a nice seafood salad and a fresh fruit salad for dessert. It's the "something warm" part of the meal I'm missing

6:10 pm

ChampFit

Hmmmmm...sounds yum! Is it cold there?

6:10 pm

Nef

Hi Jilly.

6:10 pm

Jillyjill

Good hearty vegie omlet?

6:11 pm

ChampFit

I love eggs for dinner. Hi Jilly!

6:11 pm

Nef

Yeah; it's not unbearable; but with a foot of fresh snow it's always nice to have something warm in the tummy for supper.

6:12 pm

ChampFit

I'm going to Boston to visit my sis-in-law next week, and looking forward to seeing "real" winter.

6:12 pm

Nef

an omelet is quick and easy; that might do.

6:13 pm

ChampFit

Yum!

6:14 pm

ChampFit

down to 59 and feeling like there are no more to find. gahhhhhhhhhh!

6:14 pm

Nef

We have over 2 feet of snow on the ground right now. I had to go out and shovel paths for the dog today. We had a guy come and clear the ice dams forming in front of the roof (the house faces north) and then the plowman came and cleared the driveway. Snow is nice; but by March these big storms get tiresome.

6:15 pm

Jillyjill

grinding thru the s's is not fun...

6:15 pm

ChampFit

I live in Houston. You are speaking Chinese to me. :)

6:16 pm

Jillyjill

We seem to be running out of winter here nef...saw my first robin this afternoon

6:16 pm

Nef

Yesterday I said I liked grids with R's and T's in them (there weren't any in that one. Now I should complain about all of the hidden words! ;-)

6:17 pm

ChampFit

We have the light yellow dust of pollen on everything already from the pine trees. There's a yellow line around the waterline of my pool. And on the cars.

6:18 pm

Nef

I've got 3 bird feeders in my yard and a suet holder. They are all empty because I can't open the shed door where we store the bird seed. SO this AM a cardinal came and tapped at the window where I was sitting in the Lazy Boy. I think he wanted me to come out and feed him!

6:19 pm

Nef

Jilly, I never thought MSLA had nearly as much winter as we have here in MN.

6:19 pm

ChampFit

Spoiled! That's awesome.

6:20 pm

Nef

pollen? From pine trees? Our pine trees don't have pollen.....

6:20 pm

Jillyjill

Well, used to last a lot longer 30 years ago, plus the problem of lengthy cold spring-summer

6:21 pm

Nef

now that part is true, Jilly. I'm not as fond of your cool evenings as my family seems to be.

6:21 pm

ChampFit

Yep. It's just a yellow dust. It literally flies through the air in the wind. Allergic people have a very hard time of it.

6:22 pm

Nef

(in the summer time, I mean) And your nights happen faster than ours here (because of the mountains, I guess.

6:22 pm

Nef

what type of pine trees are they, Champ? Jilly, do you have pollen from pine trees there?

6:23 pm

Jillyjill

We do, but much later for pollen

6:23 pm

ChampFit

I have no clue. So thankful I don't have any, but those around me do.

6:25 pm

ChampFit

It's all a lie...there are no more words...I'm convinced!

6:25 pm

cosdem

The serial crazy gluer has been caught! The town can sleep again.

6:25 pm

Nef

RATS! "maybe we have pollen too, then but there is so much pollen from everything else i didnt know it was fromthe pine trees " was not found in the dictionary
I was chatting in the Word box again.

6:25 pm

Jillyjill

Hmmm, inform us cos...haven't heard of him

6:26 pm

ChampFit

Ha! What on earth, cos?

6:26 pm

Nef

What, cos??? A serial crazy gluer?

6:26 pm

Jillyjill

LOL nef...you would know as it's a thick nasty yellow substance...here it is the lodgpole pine

6:26 pm

cosdem

there was a guy crazy glueing business locks downtown

6:27 pm

ChampFit

Nail polish remover will fix that, btw. Speaking of the glue.

6:27 pm

cosdem

the county democratic HQ was vandalized 4 times in a week.

6:27 pm

cosdem

with the glue lol

6:28 pm

cosdem

What is wrong with people?

6:28 pm

ChampFit

Did the moron glue himself to the lock?

6:28 pm

cosdem

lol no. survillance cameras.

6:28 pm

smores

Hi again :)

6:29 pm

Jillyjill

Hello smores...

6:31 pm

smores

lol...where there other places besides the democratic HG?

6:32 pm

cosdem

the library, a couple of falafel places, the independent living center

6:33 pm

smores

Ah..sounds random then

6:33 pm

smores

Thought it was a rogue Republican...lol

6:34 pm

ChampFit

That's almost like kids. Was it spring break there or something?

6:34 pm

cosdem

He was. These aren't your typical Repub places

6:34 pm

cosdem

No. It was an man in his 50's. Crazy look in his eyes. Unclean beard.

6:34 pm

cosdem

Police suspect meth.

6:35 pm

ChampFit

It's a wonder he didn't glue himself!

6:35 pm

smores

That happened many years ago at my church.

6:35 pm

Nef

What benefit would he gain by doing that though?

6:36 pm

cosdem

We'll never know :/

6:36 pm

Nef

so he hasn't gone into some wild rant about why he did it?

6:37 pm

Nef

Or why he picked those places?

6:39 pm

ChampFit

Off to pick up a kid. Have fun all!

6:41 pm

smores

Bye Champ...enjoy your evening :)

6:41 pm

Jillyjill

see you later champ

6:42 pm

Nef

I need to go cook my pasta, Be back shortly (really curious about the super gluer criminal)

6:42 pm

smores

:)

6:44 pm

Jillyjill

<----!!FW!!

6:46 pm

smores

LOL...just got mo6/21...typed it in as a joke

6:46 pm

smores

WTG Jilly !! WooHoo :)

6:48 pm

Jillyjill

Wanted one as soon as I found it!

6:48 pm

cosdem

ah the one who spends tuesdays with an author?

6:49 pm

smores

:D must be thinking of a different word Jilly

6:50 pm

cosdem

ah jilly means mi6 maybe?

6:50 pm

MollyL

No, I think she means the one that sounds like a donkey and then some

6:51 pm

smores

LOL

6:51 pm

MollyL

Unless Jill is looking to widen her caboose.

6:51 pm

Jillyjill

LOL, yes, the mi6/7...now must head out and forage for dinner...

6:52 pm

smores

hehe

6:52 pm

smores

I'm trying for less myself

6:52 pm

smores

enjoy your dinner Jilly :)

6:57 pm

rururocks

..interesting icon molly?

6:57 pm

smores

Hiya ruru

6:57 pm

rururocks

hi smores

6:59 pm

rururocks

*looks down to see if Molly is wearing ruby slippers*

7:00 pm

MollyL

Nope, just lining up with all the other cowards.

7:01 pm

smores

??

7:01 pm

Nef

back. Yay, Jilly!!! WTG!!!

7:01 pm

crosshair

chat is running too fast.there is a glue terrorist??

7:02 pm

rururocks

ROFL>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

7:03 pm

Nef

yes, crossy, I was waiting for cosdem to tell more about it

7:04 pm

crosshair

if crossy was a glue terroristhe would use the hilti 2 part epoxy.stuff was hard as iron.we used to hold lintel stones up with the stuff.no nail polish remover ever made will break that stuff:)

7:04 pm

crosshair

now,what are we gluing?? butts to pews? evil signs to posts.shoes to floors?

7:05 pm

cosdem

lol t hats all I know. Was just informed that it was the Dem HQ that caught him and called the cops. ill let u know when i get more info

7:05 pm

smores

lol

7:06 pm

smores

apparently super gluing door locks crossy

7:06 pm

crosshair

ahh politics..glue them all to the bottom of the ocean

7:07 pm

cosdem

sad note: my political hero, the reason I got in politics, the one who shaped my views has died today (not hugo chavez) http://alturl.com/dvo8o

7:08 pm

72 Temple Owl

thanks for that clarification, cos.

7:08 pm

smores

I'm sorry cos

7:08 pm

crosshair

when we as Canadians can look back on MR Trudeau with fondness,you know we have pilitical issues!

7:08 pm

MollyL

Tough old broad, one of the best.

7:10 pm

crosshair

never forget when he flipped the queen the bird:)

7:10 pm

cosdem

Great lady to be around. She would take time out to write notes back and forth with me and I was only 15 at that time

7:10 pm

MollyL

People like that make lasting impressions.

7:11 pm

72 Temple Owl

link not working cos

7:11 pm

cosdem

She marchd in gay pride parades every year after her defeat til like 3 years ago.. just to show her support. not ask for their support.

7:11 pm

cosdem

try this TO http://alturl.com/wyy4s

7:12 pm

Nef

the link worked for me; she sounds like a fascinating woman!

7:12 pm

cosdem

she came out in favor of gay marriage in her campaign in 1994.

7:14 pm

crosshair

did she come out in favour while still in office?

7:15 pm

cosdem

She was the democratic nominee for Governor when she said it.

7:15 pm

crosshair

good

7:15 pm

cosdem

exactly.

7:15 pm

crosshair

i hate those who play it safe and wait till it ican have no potential impact on a carrear.thing is a non issue here.i just find it facinating

7:16 pm

cosdem

brb gotta check laundry

7:16 pm

smores

Wow, cos just read the link, sounds like an awesome woman

7:16 pm

crosshair

we marry those who are in love.period.why should the government even intercede?

7:17 pm

smores

So true

7:17 pm

72 Temple Owl

nope.no dice.

7:18 pm

kyleteresa

could I please have a clue for the si 5/10?

7:18 pm

72 Temple Owl

s'ok, sorry you lost your mentor cos

7:18 pm

smores

Whether I or anyone, espesially the government, agrees or disagree shouldn't matter

7:18 pm

crosshair

though,there was this one woman we had,she wanted to marry her horse.of course she was refused,not because of sexual discrimination but because the horse in question was a male under the current age of consent in this province;)

7:18 pm

smores

LOL

7:19 pm

Nef

I agree also.

7:19 pm

crosshair

it is true!! was a gentle way to deny her and still retain her dignity

7:19 pm

Nef

wow, crossy. are you teasing?

7:19 pm

crosshair

the horse was under 16 and had no living parents to sign off

7:19 pm

crosshair

no,i am not

7:20 pm

crosshair

there are ways to refuse,but gently

7:20 pm

crosshair

she of course had issues,but understood that the horse was undar age

7:20 pm

smores

Hi kyleteresa...sorry, don't have that one....looking

7:22 pm

kyleteresa

ick. I found it! I always forget that word! :)

7:23 pm

Nef

I'm looking too.

7:23 pm

crosshair

so,in the end you avoid having to fight with her over the absurdity of a human marrying a horse

7:24 pm

Nef

did she apply after the horse was "of age?"

7:24 pm

crosshair

no,in later years she got religion and thought it would be a bad idea

7:24 pm

crosshair

seems by that time the horse was not a virgin:))

7:25 pm

Nef

oh. my. goodness....

7:27 pm

smores

lol..got it, but see you did as well

7:28 pm

72 Temple Owl

er, that snuk up on me...nye all

7:28 pm

Nef

I found a few other si 5s along the way; just now found the si5/10

7:28 pm

rururocks

*wonders how that went over in the Neigh-borhood

7:29 pm

crosshair

hehe

7:30 pm

crosshair

all the ladies wanted to see the "stud" that was for sure

7:32 pm

rururocks

talk about a roll in the hay!

7:32 pm

Wyrd

omg ru

7:32 pm

smores

Okay guys...enough horsing around

7:33 pm

Wyrd

she loved him for his whinny

7:33 pm

rururocks

I wonder if he was pasture-ized?

7:34 pm

Shirlockc

the grass *is* always greener

7:35 pm

crosshair

the engagement ring would be a set of horseshoes

7:37 pm

Wyrd

hey im trying to eat crackers here you guys

7:37 pm

crosshair

lol

7:38 pm

crosshair

what i wonder is after the bessed day,which side of the bed is the salt lick on?

7:38 pm

crosshair

blessed

7:38 pm

Wyrd

he'll do anything for a sugar cube

7:38 pm

crosshair

that and a nice carrot.he is easy

7:39 pm

crosshair

but not cheap

7:39 pm

Wyrd

right

7:43 pm

smores

BRB

7:46 pm

rururocks

friend to woman (married to horse): how's the relationship going? Married woman: great actually.. i'm back in the saddle again

7:49 pm

cosdem

back

7:50 pm

Nef

wb, cos.

7:50 pm

Wyrd

i wonder who wears the bridle in the family

7:52 pm

cosdem

65 degrees tomorrow!

7:52 pm

rururocks

I wonder if she spurs him on?

7:53 pm

Nef

LOL. You guys certainly don't need any spurring on!

7:53 pm

Wyrd

*points at ruru and crossy*

7:53 pm

Wyrd

it's their fault

7:54 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

hi all, nbt

7:54 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

oh, no, pony puns!

7:55 pm

Nef

hi Gwen.

7:56 pm

Nef

they've been off and running with this for a while now.

7:56 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

let's not be canterankerous

7:57 pm

Wyrd

thats cute

7:57 pm

rururocks

really... we've been around that track

7:57 pm

rururocks

I wonder just one thing though

7:58 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

(too scared to ask)

7:59 pm

Wyrd

(good thinking)

7:59 pm

rururocks

well.. if they had sex.. I wonder if she was thorough-ly bred?

7:59 pm

rururocks

*ducks*

8:00 pm

Nef

UGG, ruru!

8:00 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

*throws soft balls of cotton at ruru*

8:05 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

got him! (evil laugh)

8:05 pm

Nef

hey, Gwen, may I ask your professional opinion on a10 volume set of Shakespeare I want rebound?

8:06 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

sure. can you tell me the publisher name?

8:07 pm

wvteach

help with MA 5/12 (first one) please

8:07 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

i have ma5, African American dialect for the head of the house

8:07 pm

rururocks

what the slaves called their boss

8:08 pm

crosshair

ty ru

8:08 pm

rururocks

or an italian calls a service at the catholic church

8:08 pm

wvteach

got that one - thats the 2nd MA 5

8:08 pm

Nef

sorry, that's my 1st one too. (and I'd typed the publisher in the wrong spot and hit enter before realizing it

8:08 pm

jzw

I found two words in the puzzle that don't show in the answers.

8:09 pm

rururocks

the first one is ava Ma5

8:09 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

okay, i just found ma5, a girl's name, or a big plastic basin used in a kitchen

8:09 pm

crosshair

ma 5/12 is also a play in billards

8:09 pm

Nef

Gwen; the publishe is Swan Sonnenchein & Co. It's a 4th Edition published in 1880

8:10 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

jzw, we are stuck with a kind of crappy dictionary that doesn't allow a lot of perfectly good words

8:10 pm

wvteach

thnx ruru - thats the one

8:10 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

okay, nef, let me look 'em up

8:10 pm

jzw

I found it in my scrabble dictionary. What do they use?

8:11 pm

cosdem

enable

8:12 pm

crosshair

enable is a riddle wrapped in an enigma coddled in a conundrum

8:13 pm

Nef

Gwen, It's titled "the Complete works of William Shakespeare" edited by the Rev. Alexander Dyce and is labeled "the Stratford-on-Avon Edition"

8:14 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

i have collected about one gajillion words this website won't take, but should. i just keep it for laughs.

8:15 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

okay, nef, i should tell you some "in general" things. in general, rebinding lowers the value of a collectible book. also, in general, shakespeare is not all that collectible because he is one of those authors that is reprinted constantly. (more)

8:15 pm

Nef

and don't even think about using most common medical terms (such as cath or meds) because Enable doesn't know them

8:17 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

if the books are really far gone it is a waste of money to rebind them. much cheaper to simply buy a new edition.

8:17 pm

MollyL

Cath and meds are abbreviations. Which the rules say are not allowed, but they are because it takes "some". Like mayo.

8:17 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

rebinding one volume could cost aboutr $50-$100 easily (i'm estimating, of course) so the whole set could cost a goodly amount

8:18 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

mayo is a truncation, not an abbreviation. (yes, i know picky picky)

8:18 pm

cosdem

am7 please?

8:19 pm

crosshair

wow!! 100 for a rebinding of a large hardcover??

8:19 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

am7, love (in french) + ending meaning "one who does"

8:19 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

rebinding by a professional, using quality material, $100 easily, yes

8:19 pm

cosdem

ahh tyvm

8:19 pm

MollyL

Well then cath and meds are truncations too.

8:19 pm

crosshair

good to know

8:20 pm

Nef

Some of the books are really far gone; the leather bindings and covers are turning to dust. The thing I like about the series is that it has all these wonderful old 19th century actors in costumes with a tissue sheet facing it saying things like "Mr. Sidney Herbert in 'Two Gentlemen of Verona"'

8:20 pm

crosshair

well,if i am rebinding at all then it must be best materials

8:20 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

now, having said all that, if your set has anything remarkable about it (example: hand-colored plates) then it might be worth rebinding, but my guess is, it's not

8:20 pm

DR1965

sa6 please?

8:21 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

aha, you have what is known as "red rot" which is what old leather gets. it flakes, then disintegrates.

8:21 pm

crosshair

does not the rice paper sheets indicate hand coloured plates? were they not used to prevent transfer stains to the ajoining pages?

8:21 pm

Nef

no hand-colored plates, unfortunately. :-(

8:21 pm

Nef

They are B & W photos/ lithographs.

8:22 pm

crosshair

ah

8:22 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

tissue guards are common and don't indicate the type of plate, no. they are there to help prevent offset, which can occur with a lot of types of printing

8:22 pm

crosshair

ahh,i see

8:22 pm

rururocks

*ten thousand men in SF panicked at BDG 's comment

8:22 pm

Nef

red rot. oh Pooh

8:23 pm

MollyL

Har dee har, Ru. : D

8:23 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

your books may well be above "common" due to the photos. the best thing to do would be to take one volume to your nearest used bookdealer and have them evaluate them

8:23 pm

rururocks

cowards!!!!!!!!!!

8:24 pm

Nef

that is exactly what is happening. Now maybe I should consider just saving the pictures?

8:24 pm

crosshair

what surprises me is how much extra value can be added to some books with a nice clean dust jacket still intact

8:24 pm

wvteach

** finito ** haven't finished for quite a while now

8:24 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

in general, photos are not that exciting, but lithographs would be. (look up lithograph on wikipedia if you don't know diff a litho from a photo)

8:24 pm

MollyL

I laugh in your general direction.

8:24 pm

crosshair

yaaa for teach!!

8:25 pm

Nef

okay. Now that I'm sort of, kind of, almost retired I'll try and find a used book dealer here.

8:25 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

crosshair, a serious collector wants a perfect jacket, so yes, the value goes way up

8:25 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

wtg wvteach !!!!!!! @ < @ !!!!!!

8:25 pm

crosshair

lol,thats the situation i am in.kind of,amost,sort of maybe retired

8:25 pm

DR1965

sa6 please?

8:26 pm

Nef

YAY, wvteach!!! WTG!!!

8:26 pm

rururocks

sa 5 + a vowell

8:26 pm

cosdem

add a vowel to end of sa5 before it

8:26 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

be sure to phone the bookstore first and ask if they have someone who can look it over. not every used bookstore can give appraisals

8:26 pm

Nef

I thought you are still a working man, crossy?

8:26 pm

wvteach

thnx - good to be back again

8:27 pm

Nef

thank you very much for the info, Gwen

8:27 pm

rururocks

I wish I could retire

8:27 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

i collect songbooks (and a few other topics) and like most collectors i value Fine condition over Good condition (Good is actually pretty bad, call it about a 5 out of 10)

8:27 pm

DR1965

ty Ruru

8:27 pm

crosshair

just part time nef.i train agents to run stations now instead of running them myself.cannot tell you how glad i am to be out of the fuel/hydrocarbon business after 30 years!

8:27 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

no prob, nef 8-)

8:28 pm

DR1965

abd Ty Cos

8:28 pm

DR1965

And ty Cos

8:28 pm

Nef

Songbooks? How about Swedish language ones (if DH's cousin doesn't want it)

8:29 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

i prefer folklore, and language doesn't matter so much. is it folklore? and are there tunes?

8:30 pm

Nef

We have a bunch of Swedish language books and don't know what to do with those either. Maybe check at the used book store I guess

8:30 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

i will be happy to buy the songbook, if it has tunes

8:31 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

(and if it's not falling apart. no missing pages or serious damage)

8:31 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

oh, i found a word!

8:32 pm

Nef

ruru, it was sort of forced on me by my hip replacement and sick relatives (DH and his Aunt). Now that I've finally got some stuff done; I may have time to enjoy "retirement"

8:35 pm

cosdem

oh.. fireworks . didnt know I was almost done lol

8:35 pm

MollyL

We are supposed to have a big snowstorm tomorrow and then it's going to be 60 degrees on Saturday. Nice to know the snow won't be around long.

8:35 pm

Book Doctor Gwen

wtg cosdem !!!!!! @ ^ @ !!!!!!

8:36 pm

Nef

WTG, cos!!! YAY!!!

8:36 pm

cosdem

It snowed yesterday. 65 tomorrow. Can't wait. Have errands to do I psushed off til tomorrow :)

8:37 pm

Nef

Molly, we've had over a foot of snow in the last 24 hours, so .... have fun!

8:37 pm

MollyL

I can handle one day of being snowed in if I have that kind of weekend to look forward to.

8:43 pm

MimiCat

We have no weather in Phoenix---boring.

8:46 pm

MimiCat

We have two seasons---heaven and hell. Now we're in heaven but soon we'll be in hell.

8:47 pm

MollyL

The weather dudes are pumped. They have had nothing to report all winter long. They will have a marathon tomorrow.

8:47 pm

MimiCat

My monkeys are sleeping so have no chance to find more words. Good luck all. Poof.

8:50 pm

Nef

Molly, where are you? I'm assuming the East coast?

8:55 pm

MollyL

Yep

8:56 pm

mkg

hi all. clue for the 8 and 9 please and i wouldnt mind some clues for the 7s. i only have 59 words

8:57 pm

Nef

I figured it was at lest east of the great Lakes, anyway; since this storm was supposedly hitting Chicago today

8:59 pm

Nef

mkg, the 8 is we 8/60, meaning most tired; the 9 is os 9/60; a place for the bones of the dead (according to Enable

9:00 pm

JeeWhiz

Mi6 and mi7 can be a tree or a drink

9:01 pm

mkg

i know the 9 os word but must be spelling it wrong.

9:01 pm

mkg

got os 9/. ty.

9:01 pm

Nef

yw

9:02 pm

mkg

minosa

9:02 pm

mkg

oops. glad i spelled it wrong.

9:02 pm

JeeWhiz

Close mkg

9:02 pm

mkg

ty got mi words

9:02 pm

mkg

it was a lucky typo so i dont go to pb.

9:02 pm

mkg

still missing eight 7 words.

9:03 pm

crosshair

ahh.much better:) eco showers for two are a sacrifice i am willing to make for this fine planet of ours;)

9:03 pm

JeeWhiz

Te7 cry baby

9:04 pm

mkg

cry baby?????????????hmmmmm

9:04 pm

crosshair

ty jeewhiz

9:05 pm

JeeWhiz

Boo hoo....more than

9:06 pm

JeeWhiz

Ye crossy

9:06 pm

JeeWhiz

Yw

9:06 pm

JeeWhiz

Yw

9:07 pm

mkg

dont get it. tried te 5, water coming from eyes, and then ending of two vowels and plural and wont take it.

9:08 pm

JeeWhiz

Water coming from eyes than suffix comparing

9:08 pm

mkg

got it! whew. tough one.

9:09 pm

JeeWhiz

Rhymes with we6 which can be superlative for we7

9:10 pm

mkg

send more super great clues. i love them!

9:10 pm

Nef

BBL; I need some tea.

9:10 pm

mkg

need z clues. have one: pimples.

9:10 pm

JeeWhiz

I am about out....am7 one who loves

9:11 pm

JeeWhiz

Zi4/5 pasta

9:11 pm

mkg

ty and got plural as well.

9:12 pm

mkg

ty got am 7

9:14 pm

mkg

i also need the i word clued plesae

9:14 pm

JeeWhiz

Zi5 and zi6 si plus animal

9:15 pm

JeeWhiz

Zi not si....autocorrect makes me misspelled.

9:15 pm

mkg

i just got the i word": never saw it before. i 4: i and high point letter and two more letters.

9:15 pm

mkg

animal in grid? hmmmm

9:16 pm

JeeWhiz

Goat

9:16 pm

mkg

ty got it.

9:16 pm

mkg

time for sleep. ty all.

9:18 pm

jmcnrick

hi all

9:20 pm

Bugsaw

hi jmc. how have you been lately?

9:22 pm

jmcnrick

i have been up and down. . .pretty up today after a rough morning. . .

9:23 pm

jmcnrick

i woke up to a truck driving through my yard and ramming my fence. . .

9:23 pm

jmcnrick

how are you bugs

9:24 pm

Bugsaw

I just started getting the red boxes of doom after I came in and said hello. I hope they are not permanent

9:24 pm

Bugsaw

I am enjoying life. Spending lots of time on projects that interest me even tho I am volunteering and am broke.

9:25 pm

jmcnrick

i was getting them all week but messed with my computer and now that part works fine. . . unfortunately screwed up my browser somehow. . .its always something

9:25 pm

jmcnrick

broke is not all that bad if you have enough to eat. . .

9:25 pm

Bugsaw

oh crap. How bad is your fence?

9:26 pm

jmcnrick

fortunately (as I planned) the huge concrete base stopped his truck so the wooden fence is untouched. . .

9:26 pm

Bugsaw

Broke is a choice because I chose retirement and mental health over salary. We are always good for food.

9:26 pm

jmcnrick

he had to jump my 2 1/2 high curb to get in the yard!

9:27 pm

Bugsaw

holy smokes! how fast was he going?

9:27 pm

jmcnrick

i am broke too but not quite ready to completely retire. . .i keep hoping my organization will get going. . .

9:27 pm

jmcnrick

not that fast. . .huge truck with big wheels backing up the alley. . . me screaming out the window at him. . .good times. . .

9:28 pm

Bugsaw

I hope so too. You have a much better chance of it than you would in Canada. We are not so passionate about our politics

9:29 pm

jmcnrick

well if i were canadian i am sure i would have focused on something else. . .

9:30 pm

Bugsaw

you watching and screaming helplessly brought back a memory of watching a huge truck almost run over a toddler on a tiny bike thing. He was down so low the driver had no idea he was there

9:31 pm

jmcnrick

not that scary to worry about my fence. . .just pissed me off. . .

9:31 pm

Bugsaw

some of us are passionate about politics but not as many

9:31 pm

jmcnrick

well it is good to have passionate people in a democracy

9:32 pm

Bugsaw

I agree. and your cause is a good one

9:32 pm

jmcnrick

ty

9:32 pm

rururocks

I think passionate needs to stay in the bedroom

9:32 pm

jmcnrick

sheesh my cat is sniffing these papers this woman brought over today. . .i am guessing the smell of her dozens of cats must be on the papers. . .

9:33 pm

rururocks

or the stairway.. or the kitchen. or the closet.. or the ..

9:33 pm

jmcnrick

not me ru! haha

9:33 pm

jmcnrick

i would think you would want people out of the closet

9:34 pm

Bugsaw

maybe that is why Canadians are not so passionate about politics --- we know where it belongs

9:34 pm

Bugsaw

I have to look for words again.

9:34 pm

jmcnrick

haha too cold to get out of bed. . .

9:35 pm

Bugsaw

you have the idea jm

9:35 pm

jmcnrick

:-D

9:36 pm

Nef

hi again. I was getting a headache there for a bit.

9:36 pm

Nef

My tea has helped.

9:36 pm

jmcnrick

hope you feel better nef

9:36 pm

Bugsaw

Hi Nef. Hunger headache or eyestrain from looking for words?

9:36 pm

jmcnrick

what kind of tea

9:37 pm

Nef

jmc, I've been to your site several times, I like what you've posted there; but am wondering if there is some sort of solution to the problem of money in politics?

9:37 pm

Nef

eyestrain; and it's Good Earth tea

9:37 pm

jmcnrick

i actually support a constitutional amendment that has been introduce by Cong. Schiff

9:38 pm

jmcnrick

i am meeting with his staff next tuesday so even though i don't have money i am making some headway. . .

9:38 pm

Nef

Ooh! What is the number?

9:39 pm

jmcnrick

i had the amendment posted on my website but i am in the middle of changing the site and it seems to have dropped off. . . HJRes 21. . .

9:39 pm

jmcnrick

i think it has a minor flaw that could be fixed and hope to discuss that with them. . .

9:39 pm

jmcnrick

it doesn't solve everything but it is a good start and it doesn't make things worse. . .

9:40 pm

welki

hey hey - made it!

9:40 pm

jmcnrick

YAY!

9:40 pm

jmcnrick

i got my brand new car cover in time to keep the rain out of the footwell so I am pretty happy too welki

9:41 pm

welki

baby is gorgeous, older grand-daughter divine - kids are tired, but happy

9:41 pm

Nef

MPR had a program about how the White House is using the petition process to "allow" the White House to communicate with people who sign petitions about subjects they are passionate about. Maybe you could start a petition?

9:41 pm

jmcnrick

lovely!

9:42 pm

Nef

sounds like a good time for you to visit then, welki. How was your trip?

9:42 pm

jmcnrick

I may do that nef. . .it is an idea with some merit. . .of course i had to find the right constitutional amendment first. . .

9:42 pm

welki

trip was long, nef - and the hotel, well - hahaha, you get what you pay for! it's not that bad, just past its glory days

9:42 pm

Bugsaw

when was the baby born welki?

9:43 pm

welki

feb 19

9:43 pm

Nef

oh dear. I hope IT DOESN'T HAVE BED BUGS!

9:43 pm

welki

thank you for that, nef *itching now*

9:43 pm

Nef

Oops! Sorry about the caps.

9:44 pm

Bugsaw

NEF I am at home and I am feeling itchy now

9:44 pm

jmcnrick

hmmm should i bring clean sheets?

9:44 pm

Nef

how's the mommy doing? (Is she your daughter or DIL?)

9:44 pm

welki

it's actually pretty clean - the room is on a floor that they're doing heavy maintenance on, smells bleachy, but better than *something else*

9:44 pm

welki

nah - if i see that there's an 'issue,' will let you know where i've moved to :)

9:45 pm

welki

mom's fine, exhausted - same with dad. with a little luck, i can help them with the housework and the almost 4 year old

9:45 pm

jmcnrick

clue for the second ar5/10 please

9:45 pm

Bugsaw

baby snuggles are the best.

9:45 pm

jmcnrick

that would be nice of you and much appreciated i am sure. . .

9:45 pm

welki

awake, ar***!

9:46 pm

Bugsaw

good morning sun

9:46 pm

jmcnrick

duh!

9:46 pm

jmcnrick

ty both and slap me with a fish

9:46 pm

Nef

I had a client last year that the house was infested with bed bugs; she had bites all over (like mosquito bites). Turned out she was allergic to them and she lost her baby at 4 months (I don't know if it was due to the bed bug bites or not though)

9:47 pm

welki

i'm getting itchier and itchier :)

9:48 pm

Bugsaw

how sad

9:48 pm

jmcnrick

well that is a sad story. . .

9:48 pm

Nef

Sorry; I forgot your not nurses here.. No more medical talking; I promise

9:48 pm

jmcnrick

i find a shot of jack to help with itching. . .

9:48 pm

jmcnrick

trust me nef the stories lawyers tell are tough too!

9:48 pm

Nef

use some nice soothing lotions, welki.

9:49 pm

Bugsaw

I lost babies Nef and it was a student nurse who was the most comforting.

9:49 pm

welki

nah, it'll be fine

9:50 pm

Nef

oh, Bugs. I'm so sorry.

9:50 pm

welki

i actually picked hotels based on bedbug ratings (because that's the way i am)

9:50 pm

jmcnrick

tough broad!

9:50 pm

Bugsaw

they have bedbug ratings now!!!!!!!!!!

9:50 pm

welki

and i've already made friends with andres, the bartender

9:51 pm

Nef

WTG, welki! I think I'd do that too

9:51 pm

welki

if you search in the right places, you can find out just about anything about any thing

9:51 pm

jmcnrick

no remember you are a married lady welki. . .

9:51 pm

Nef

(err, I was referring to the hotel ratings

9:51 pm

jmcnrick

i on the other hand. . . .

9:51 pm

Bugsaw

are you changing your name to Shirley Valentine too?

9:51 pm

welki

friends in the, if you serve me well, i'll tip you well sense of friends

9:52 pm

welki

and by serve, i mean drinks *lol*

9:52 pm

jmcnrick

ah. . . a friend indeed. . .

9:53 pm

Bugsaw

firewords thanks to Morewords. anyone want a clue?

9:53 pm

Bugsaw

or a poor clue I shoud say

9:53 pm

jmcnrick

whoo hoo bugs

9:53 pm

Nef

YAY, Bugsaw!!! WTG!!!

9:53 pm

welki

(and with elvin, the maintenance guy)

9:53 pm

jmcnrick

as5 please

9:53 pm

jmcnrick

always good to know the maintenance guy

9:53 pm

Bugsaw

accepts applause with deep bow

9:54 pm

welki

a + **** the pot, **** the soup

9:54 pm

Nef

don't forget the maids either!

9:54 pm

welki

wtg bugs!

9:54 pm

Bugsaw

what welki said.... ;)

9:54 pm

jmcnrick

dang. . . ty both. . .great clue bugs! haha

9:55 pm

Bugsaw

I take too long thinking about a clue others might understand. You got my best kind of clue

9:55 pm

jmcnrick

every time i check the weather they delay the start of the snow. . . at this rate it will start next tuesday

9:55 pm

welki

oh! and they gave me coupons for free breakfasts, so we eat for free saturday morning!

9:56 pm

jmcnrick

i am great at copying other peoples clues i saw earlier

9:56 pm

jmcnrick

yum welki you know how to treat a girl. . .

9:56 pm

Bugsaw

how long to you get to stay welki?

9:56 pm

welki

(and i asked the son in law to take me to a liquor store tomorrow - can it get much better? LOLOL)

9:57 pm

welki

i fly back on the 14th

9:57 pm

welki

<-- will have a bottle of jack waiting for my friend, jmc

9:57 pm

Nef

My problem with cluing is no one understands what I mean. *I* understand it; but I also type too slow

9:58 pm

Bugsaw

poofing now. need a cup of tea. Happy Babbling

9:58 pm

jmcnrick

i think friday night will be a good night if we don't get too smashed and drown in the hottub! haha

9:58 pm

jmcnrick

i type pretty fast. . .probably not as fast as min. . .but fairly fast. . .

9:59 pm

jmcnrick

bye bugs and thanks have a nice night

9:59 pm

welki

i checked the pool and jacuzzi out - clean.

9:59 pm

Nef

niters, Bugs!

9:59 pm

welki

g'night bugs

9:59 pm

welki

and there's a lifesaver ring hanging on the wall - maybe we'll just take it into the water with us

10:00 pm

Nef

So are you 2 going to be roommates or just a good long night visiting?

10:00 pm

jmcnrick

haha. . .

10:00 pm

jmcnrick

roommates. . .friends don't let friend drive tipsy

10:01 pm

Nef

LOL! So true!

10:01 pm

jmcnrick

just one night to see if we really were twins separated at birth. . .

10:01 pm

welki

we'll take a cab. i won't get into a car with someone who's been drinking

10:02 pm

jmcnrick

but i can't take a cab back to DC!

10:02 pm

welki

you'll be sober or you'll stay another night :)

10:03 pm

jmcnrick

trust me i don't start drinking in the morning. . .

10:04 pm

Nef

BRB, I forgot to "shoot" DH! (he needs his shot!

10:04 pm

jmcnrick

i can't stand drinks at breakfast. . . maybe a beer or a glass of wine for lunch. . .i saves my jack for evenings

10:06 pm

welki

on the weekends at home, i usually have a virgin caesar in the mornings - can't imagine trying to start the day with a buzz

10:07 pm

jmcnrick

me either. . . and its not like I am a teetotaler

10:08 pm

welki

what time does the grid flip?

10:08 pm

jmcnrick

one am

10:08 pm

jmcnrick

you have 2 hours

10:08 pm

welki

could happen, i'm two hours behind and wide awake

10:09 pm

jmcnrick

its fun to be around for the flip. . . i do it once a week or so

10:13 pm

welki

woo - just looked at the forecast. hopefully, the temps will be high enough that the snow will be gone by friday

10:14 pm

jmcnrick

it is suppose to be all gone by friday afternoon

10:14 pm

welki

someone's looking out for us :)

10:15 pm

jmcnrick

it is 40 here. . . it is going to have to work hard to get as cold as they claim. . .

10:15 pm

welki

know what i thought about on the plane? that there are three babblers from connecticut - they could carpool!

10:15 pm

jmcnrick

last mo5/12 please

10:16 pm

jmcnrick

haha i think that will not happen welki. . .

10:16 pm

welki

little orphan annie sings it to*****

10:16 pm

jmcnrick

dang i thought of that word but couldn't see it. . . it is time to hang up my spurs for the night

10:17 pm

welki

had a great seat partner, a lawyer from buffalo who is also a ski instructor. has a pretty big personal injury law practice

10:17 pm

welki

g'night, jmc. sweet dreams, buckerette

10:18 pm

jmcnrick

nice. . . good to have someone interesting to talk to . . .

10:18 pm

jmcnrick

50 left. . . bye all. . . *poof*

10:24 pm

Nef

Darn. I jst get back from shooting DH and jmc left already.

10:28 pm

welki

need help?

10:29 pm

torgone

Seems a bit drastic ..

10:29 pm

welki

hi, tor

10:29 pm

Nef

I have 32 left and will plug away and finish. You don't have to stay (I ended up opening Lickety)

10:30 pm

Nef

what's a bit drastic, tor

10:30 pm

welki

hehe - not like i have anywhere to go

10:30 pm

torgone

Shooting your DH. What did he do?

10:31 pm

Nef

it's his weekly shot for his MS, tor. He's afraid to give it to himself; so I get to.

10:32 pm

torgone

Ah. I see.

10:34 pm

Nef

i sometimes might WISH it was something else; but it's just an IM shot. ;-)

10:36 pm

Nef

I'm finding the R's to be a pain right now.

10:53 pm

torgone

They really are rather rambunctious ..

10:56 pm

Nef

I'm stuck im the M's now (filling in my missing words in reverse)

10:56 pm

torgone

But I have ra4/9ed them all

10:56 pm

Nef

WTG, tor! :-)

10:57 pm

Nef

1 M left

10:57 pm

Nef

(17 words left now)

10:58 pm

torgone

Go Nef! 23 here ..

10:58 pm

Nef

we'll finish about the same time!

11:00 pm

MLFAN17

can someone clue the si 7 please?

11:00 pm

Nef

M's Mashed!

11:01 pm

Nef

it's a pl of the mountains, MLF

11:01 pm

MLFAN17

ty got it

11:03 pm

Nef

:-)

11:03 pm

MLFAN17

clue for the Os 9 please?

11:05 pm

Nef

it's a place wher you keep the bones of the dead, MLF. Not sure how to clue it.

11:06 pm

Nef

1st 3 letters of the preceding os4/4; then trib*t***** of a river

11:06 pm

grannyrose

os9, os + **e, female name + zodiac sign of the ram

11:08 pm

torgone

Like river mouths, but swap out est

11:08 pm

Nef

(both of those are better clues than mine!

11:12 pm

MLFAN17

double cons?

11:13 pm

MLFAN17

grr

11:13 pm

Nef

??? what's wrong MLF?

11:13 pm

torgone

yes double cons

11:14 pm

MLFAN17

not getting it

11:16 pm

Nef

o + dble snake letter + a modern way to spell you+ zodiac sign

11:18 pm

cosdem

i really like that clue nef

11:18 pm

MLFAN17

thanks for some reason i tried it the way it is and it just worked

11:18 pm

MLFAN17

nbt and nbs

11:19 pm

Nef

thanks cos. :-)

11:19 pm

Nef

WTG, MLF!

11:20 pm

Nef

I have 7 left; all A's now

11:21 pm

MLFAN17

ty nef

11:22 pm

cosdem

A's werent too bad

11:22 pm

Nef

I don't know, cos; I'm fighting sleep here.

11:26 pm

Nef

2 left

11:27 pm

westford

hello nef cos and ML

11:27 pm

Nef

finally! Fireworks!!!

11:28 pm

Nef

hi westford

11:28 pm

westford

yay nef me too

11:28 pm

torgone

Yay Nef!

11:28 pm

Nef

YAY, westford!!! WTG!!

11:28 pm

torgone

Yay west!

11:28 pm

Nef

how about you torgone? How many left?

11:28 pm

westford

thanks nef and tor

11:29 pm

Nef

I'll hang out til you get FW, tor.

11:30 pm

westford

cos I need to ask you about Vermont when you get a minute

11:32 pm

torgone

Thanks, Nef. Did already ..

11:32 pm

westford

belated yay tor

11:33 pm

Nef

YAY, tor! WTG!!! (and now good night all!) Happy Babbling!

11:33 pm

westford

good night nef happy dreams

11:33 pm

cosdem

hey yeah

11:34 pm

westford

going to Waterbury in April any good breweries?

11:35 pm

cosdem

Ive never been there. I can ask a friend or two?

11:35 pm

westford

going to Stowe too..

11:36 pm

cosdem

wait.. i have a friend who lives in waterbury lol lemme ask him.. ill have to wait til tmw for an answ tho

11:36 pm

westford

plenty of time thanks

11:36 pm

westford

where did you live?

11:37 pm

cosdem

Burlington

11:37 pm

westford

that near St Alban's?

11:38 pm

cosdem

1/2 hour south of st albans yeah

11:39 pm

cosdem

i dated a guy who lived there..

11:39 pm

westford

ended well I hope

11:40 pm

cosdem

were "Facebook friends"

11:40 pm

westford

that's good

11:41 pm

westford

have you finished the grid ?

11:41 pm

cosdem

Yeah hours ago.. just waiting for flip

11:41 pm

westford

me too..I am going to go play laundry see you at the flip

11:44 pm

cosdem

see you soon :)

11:59 pm

cybernan

hello everyone :)

12:00 am

jillibus

Hello all -- I'm so sad for my son and d-i-l. Not only did her brother die of lung cancer a couple of weeks ago, but today they had to have their beloved Lab mix put to a final sleep.

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