Babble: Archived Puzzle for Saturday, September 4, 2004

12:00 am

Tolinya

me first

12:16 am

Tolinya

I keep seeing hippo....

12:42 am

Tolinya

Clearly the only one playing..have a good night all...logging with 52/572

12:44 am

runningforhome

Have a few sevens, but nothing better than 40 points.

12:44 am

iluvtigs

80/860

12:53 am

Janice

71/1064

12:57 am

Janice

signing-off with 74/1149
Haven't yet found many 70s worth more than 40. I did find one though worth 48. G'Night everyone!

12:57 am

Janice

oops...meant to say "7s" not "70s"

1:27 am

runningforhome

There are around 320 words in this puzzle.

1:33 am

runningforhome

Heading to bed with 110/4.78/1446. Best is a nine for 66; starts with E.

1:52 am

Ashy & Sini

For that 9 tipped by runningforhome, you've got plenty of e's to choose from...

3:00 am

Q

Also a 9 for 72, starts with a different vowel.

3:10 am

Atalante

I was *just* going to mention that 9 for 72!

4:34 am

periwinkle

Good Morning, I am getting an early start today. A clue for the 9/72 and the 9/66 would make my day. :)

4:39 am

youngster

Good morning. The most I have so far is 7/40

4:44 am

periwinkle

No 7's yet. What does yours start with youngster, please.

4:45 am

youngster

h

4:46 am

youngster

and its the plural of 6/27

4:47 am

Ashy & Sini

I've got five 7's

4:47 am

periwinkle

Thanks, I already had the 6/27 but forgot to make it plural.

4:48 am

periwinkle

Found another 7, youngster, starts with S.

4:52 am

youngster

haven't found it yet, but found one beginning with t

4:59 am

periwinkle

don't have the 7 starting with T yet but lots of sixes.

5:03 am

youngster

10x6s

5:05 am

youngster

just got a 7 s

5:08 am

youngster

stopping for now, work to do.

5:11 am

angeelu

There's an 8 for 50 starting with S.

5:20 am

shortseer

i8 ... space between things
i9 ... plural of i8
i9 ... area of low-lying land

5:23 am

Atalante

190 / 5.14 / 3143
There's millions more than this I feel but so far I've got:
9 - 1 for 72
8 - 3 for 50,55,50
7 - 24 for 36,36,36,36,36,48,36,36,28,40,48,40,40,28,28,36,28,28,40,36,40,40,28,28

5:28 am

King Henrik

got the 7 for 40.
anyone got a word count for today?

5:33 am

Atalante

A 7 / 8 singular and plural version of a fish - hooray for fish!

6:26 am

King Henrik

OK, so i'm doing rubbish but here's my word count anyway:
108 / 1624
A x 5
B x 12
C x 5
E x 2
H x 18
I x 4
L x 14
P x 10
R x 5
S x 21
T x 8
V x 4

6:40 am

shortseer

A x 15
H x 29
I x 7

6:42 am

Ashy & Sini

Hi shortseer!

6:44 am

shortseer

why it's ash and sini !

7:20 am

Ashy & Sini

100 words 4.74 1211

Whoa, I was long time stuck in 98 words...

Could we change that one l into t, please?

7:38 am

Atalante

201 / 5.16 / 3390

A 14
B 19
C 18
E 10
H 25
I 6
L 21
N 1
O 2
P 12
R 14
S 39
T 12
V 7

7:39 am

shortseer

Just combine the right 4-4 words together and you'll get:
2x B8 words

Add an s and you'll also have :
2x B9 words

7:39 am

King Henrik

ach!
stuck on 122 words.
i'll come back later when my brain recharges.
could someone post their letters please?

7:41 am

shortseer

Bx 22
P x 19

7:47 am

Atalante

So you do! Thanks Shortseer :) I would never have found those!

7:52 am

shortseer

yes ... i wasn't really expecting them to work when i tried them out :D

8:00 am

Kirsty1

Thanks for the clue shortseer - those are mad words aren't they??!

8:03 am

fit1

I just found i for 8 and i for 9!!!!!!!!1

8:04 am

Kirsty1

There are two i9s - shortseer gave clues to them both earlier

8:05 am

shortseer

Considering the points they provide, i rather like those words ;)

8:13 am

Kirsty1

Goodness, there's another (equally mad) 8 and another 9 word using the second part of those other 4+4 words...

8:16 am

shortseer

L8/L9 sequence

Narcotic alkaloid extracted from a plant that starts with L

(or you can just join 2x 4-letter words together to get it)

8:16 am

shortseer

um ... snap!

8:18 am

Kirsty1

Ha! Now I don't have to look up what it means either!

8:22 am

fit1

Thanks Kirsty. But I was soooooo excited finding them on my own. Now I have to look for the third one. Dang :)

8:28 am

Kirsty1

Aww sorry fit1 - I *so* know that feeling! Still, if you've got one you'll get the other...

8:39 am

fuzzy

Thanks for the help on the 2x4 letter b and l words. never would have tried those combos myself

9:14 am

4t8

what a lovely grid! poe would be so happy.

9:37 am

King Henrik

9 for 66 starting with e

9:47 am

Krys10

I'm fairly new to this page and I have a question of ethics - what is the consensus here about use of solvers for puzzles like this? I just did a quick google search and found a solver that has had today's puzzle entered into it twice already...

9:53 am

4t8

how cool - it shows that? basically, if you use it to find out how many words are poss./what the lengths are & how many say 8 or 9 letter words there are, that's okay. if you use it to find a word, you're cheating yourself and why bother to play.

10:01 am

King Henrik

using a solver to cheat is a waste of time.
it makes it boring and takes the challenge out of the game.
nobody gets too annoyed - its pretty obvious when people do it and it doesn't really affect anyone else.
(unless you're really uptight about your ranking!!!)

10:09 am

4t8

just realized i've been here nearly an hour. oops! 118/1664. guess that's fair - 2 words a minute or so.

10:24 am

jlm_mi

Krys10 - It was probably entered into that solver by me and runningforhome. We both use it to see the total number of words. I also have scripts that I use from it to calculate words per length and words per starting letter. When I saw that there were ~300 words today I knew I didn't have time to do it justice and decided not to even start playing, but was just checking in to see how others are doing.

Oh, and I do publish the word length and starting letter stats to help all when I calculate them. ;)

So, most days you'll find it solved by at least 2 people. :-D

11:03 am

Krys10

Makes sense - I never would have thought to even do a search until Youngster asked about it yesterday.

11:11 am

runningforhome

If 'cowpie' is a word, 'bullpie' should be too! That's discrimination!

11:56 am

Atalante

any clues for the E9? Am completely stuck on it!

12:17 pm

Treble99

any clues for the E 9 please

1:17 pm

DaveC

Where are these solvers? Just curious.....

1:19 pm

Christine

Whoo, found the E9, while trying to squeeze in an E8...

1:21 pm

sleeky

which E? Which E?

1:23 pm

Christine

EB...

1:35 pm

Christine

I have three 9s... am I missing any?

1:35 pm

Atalante

isn't it wierd - that E9 was immediately so obvious when you said EB Christine :)

1:37 pm

Atalante

yup - you're missing 3 at least

2:04 pm

Christine

Oh, pooh! I hoped I had them... I have E66, and two Is for 72.. the first was a misspelling that worked out - who knew?

2:16 pm

Atalante

you're missing the 3 that shortseer gave good clues for earlier ;)

2:21 pm

Christine

Oh, rats ... 8 trillion posts to read... back later.

2:29 pm

Christine

I checked shortseer's post, and I have the two 9s mentioned, and the EB; so I think I'll call someone to have lunch... come back with a full tummy and a recharged brain (direct connection).

2:53 pm

Atalante

Shortseer's 7:39 and 8:16 posts ..... :)

3:12 pm

dimwit

So I raced pell-mell to type in pell to the grid and it wasn't accepted ! hmph !

3:15 pm

dimwit

....and yet it will take (hyper)-bole ! Ah me, why do I do puzzles ?
Got to keep the brain cells well exercised
:-D

3:19 pm

DaveC

any clues for the EB word?

3:31 pm

Britneysdead

i just can't get the 9 word, narcotic that starts 'line..' !

3:33 pm

dimwit

people who work with me say I am Eb...
actually that I am too eb.......
it's someone who is somewhat lively and cheery

3:49 pm

Treble99

Is there more than 3 9s

3:54 pm

4t8

oh, thank you dimwit! (am now eb...)

3:55 pm

King Henrik

i've found 5 9s; the clues are scattered throughout the message log.
its late where i am so i'm off to bed
goodnight all!
157 / 2825

3:59 pm

dimwit

I have 5 x i's - has anyone a clue for the other 9 letter that is not a plural of an 8 letter ?

4:07 pm

Juliet

I think the other i (non-plural) was posted earlier as an area of low lying land.. (good luck, i'm still trying to figure it out.)

4:09 pm

runningforhome

It's really similar to the i-8/9 combo.

4:10 pm

Treble99

I have EB9, I9 and a B9,which ones are missing

4:15 pm

runningforhome

There's another b-9 and another i-9, at least.

4:16 pm

dimwit

Britneysdead @ 3.31 pm said there was a narcotic, L9 beginning with line... This foxed me, because it doesn't..

4:17 pm

dimwit

Sorry should have said it's an L8, with plural L9.

4:19 pm

runningforhome

So it does start with L, but not with 'line'?

4:21 pm

dimwit

Yes

4:25 pm

dimwit

Thank you runningforhome and Juliet, your combined clues got me the last ix9

4:27 pm

shortseer

... shortseer arrives back to try to finish babbling and reads:

At 10:24 am jlm_mi said...
[quote] When I saw that there were ~300 words today I knew I didn't have time to do it justice and decided not to even start playing, but was just checking in to see how others are doing. [/quote]

GASP!!!
No word breakdown from jlm today ...
Damn damn damn!
:(

Okaaay ... that makes things more difficult.

Well, what about all the 8/9 words?
Anybody got more to add to the following list :

---------------------
i8 ... space between things
i9 ... plural of i8
i9 ... area of low-lying land (between valleys!)
---------------------
B8/B9
B8/B9

Just combine the right 4-4 words together and you'll get:
2x B8 words

Add an s and you'll also have :
2x B9 words
---------------------
L8/L9 sequence

Narcotic alkaloid extracted from a plant that starts with L

(or you can just join 2x 4-letter words together to get it)
---------------------
E9 someone who is somewhat lively and cheery

E8 people involved in voting

--------------------

S8 fabric
S8 rowers
S8 fishies!

----------------

4:31 pm

fit1

Oh my goodness. I found the non plural i 9. so now I have the eb, the iplural, the i non plural, the b, and I'm stuck on the l 8/9. But I'd say i'm making progress :)

4:31 pm

dimwit

Hey steady on shortseer - too much too soon for a befuddled late night brain to take in there !:-{

4:39 pm

shortseer

@dimwit
sunday morning here ...
i've had a night's sleep and am now de-befuddlerised ;)

4:43 pm

dimwit

Wow, are you in Australia or something ?

4:45 pm

shortseer

yep
australia

4:46 pm

dimwit

G'day sport! (sorry couldn't resist it)

I'm being hassled off by hubby, back when he's finished his online work.

4:53 pm

shortseer

no worries, mate

5:14 pm

periwinkle

marigold, are you here. I am back from the beach. Don't forget to light the candle for Mom.

5:15 pm

Treble99

cant find the fishies for S8

5:23 pm

shortseer

You might want to go angling for the Cottidae family of fishies ...

5:24 pm

periwinkle

may I have a clue for the B8/B9. I can't seem to find the right words to connect.

5:30 pm

shortseer

not the real meaning ...
but have you ever heard the expression "the thin ---- ----" for when law enforcement officers are stetched to the limit?
That should give you one of the B8/9s

5:33 pm

periwinkle

never heard of that expression but will keep trying. Is the first part a color?

5:34 pm

periwinkle

shortseer, I got it. I remembered the expression. Thanks so much.

5:44 pm

shortseer

the other B8/9 ..
again, not right meaning ...
but what would you be left with on your body if you'd had your trousers' holderer-upperer secured too tightly? ;)

5:52 pm

periwinkle

shortseer, what an interesting clue. I will try to figure it out. Thanks.

5:53 pm

periwinkle

shortseer. It didn't take me long. I found them. Thank you soo much. :)

6:10 pm

Treble99

cant find the narcotic

6:15 pm

shortseer

It's extracted from a plant in the genus Lobelia

6:19 pm

DaveC

clue on the low lying land?

6:33 pm

shortseer

quite literally, between valley

6:37 pm

DaveC

I keep thinking ravine....but it does not fit.

6:41 pm

DaveC

got it.....thanks

7:08 pm

periwinkle

marigold, you have e-mail.

7:08 pm

periwinkle

shortseer, Thanks again for your help.

7:10 pm

periwinkle

I only have 5 A words :(.

7:51 pm

fit1

change the last letter of your I 9 plural

8:12 pm

periwinkle

thanks

8:15 pm

periwinkle

may I please have the 2nd letter of the S/8 fabric word. The only ones I know are serge, satin and sateen and they dont fit. :(.

8:16 pm

periwinkle

marigold are you here?

8:16 pm

DaveC

sa

8:17 pm

periwinkle

thanks DaveC. I will keep trying.

8:28 pm

periwinkle

I can't figure out the fabric What is it used for.

8:30 pm

marigold

periwinkle...........are you still here

8:31 pm

atlatl51

used for linings. went to the dictionary for this one. i never heard of the word.

8:31 pm

shortseer

A x 15 ....

A4 umm ... computer acronym / man's name
A5 plural of above
A4 on/to a particular side
A4 alcoholic beverages
A4 too
A5 change
A6 see above
A4 let's just say it's the god of war
A5 mountain ridge
A4 you're sittin' on it
A5 A plant of the genus Geum
A4 affirm
A5 see above
A6 anti
A4 greeting/farewell expressions

any others???
-----------------

Found an R8 ...

Def. : Half-moon shape earthworks ... or ... more fishies!

8:41 pm

periwinkle

Yes, marigold, I am still here. Did you check your e-mail. I just got the R/8 word.

8:46 pm

periwinkle

shortseer, Thanks, I now have 12 A words. :)

8:53 pm

marigold

i checked my e-mail but i there is nothing new.

8:55 pm

periwinkle

I gave you two words. Did you get them? I have all 15 A words.

8:56 pm

periwinkle

shortseer. Thank you so much. I now have all of the A words. Still don't have the S/fabric word though and lots of other words.

8:59 pm

dimwit

I'm back, just for a bit. I see you are in a very helpful mood shortseer ! - I'm getting to work on your A list right away.

9:00 pm

Juliet

Help with the i9 word... i'm going crazy trying to figure it out...

9:02 pm

shortseer

Lots of other words ...
Yes, well going by an early post of runningforhome, i too can't see a lot of words :(

9:03 pm

dimwit

change a letter at the end of the other one......

9:03 pm

atlatl51

can't find the r8. care to share the 2nd letter please? i would be most grateful.

9:05 pm

Christine

Juliet - you have the I8/9, and are missing the other I9, right? If so, just change the last letter on your 9.

9:05 pm

periwinkle

ra, I used Google to find it.

9:08 pm

atlatl51

thanks periwinkle :) did you ever hear of this word?

9:09 pm

dimwit

I have a/ 5 for 16 which is part of the name for a wild plant, field or water a....
perhaps it is the same as one of yours shortseer with another description ?

9:14 pm

dimwit

Oh yes, I just scrolled down and see you have.

9:15 pm

shortseer

sounds like it, dimwit
(not that i actually know this plant in Real Life)

9:20 pm

dimwit

I have some in my garden, quite nice, little yellow flowers:0

9:20 pm

Juliet

Christin - thanks for the hint.. worked great!

9:29 pm

Christine

Hmmm -- heard of the S-fabric, but with a difference in the spelling - a C in the middle...

9:32 pm

Juliet

That s fabric word stumped me for a bit too.. tough one

9:36 pm

dimwit

I cannot find the fabric yet either, but I found a word for rainforest whilst looking , a 5 for 16

9:41 pm

shortseer

don't forget that you can have more than one rainforest ;)

9:45 pm

dimwit

Are u saying there is another in the grid ? The one I found said it was a tropical one. ( I thought they all were)

9:46 pm

dimwit

Ah, see what you mean ...

9:48 pm

shortseer

if you can have tundra/tundras , then ....

9:48 pm

sleeky

This has been such a fun grid! So many neat words. And I've only got about a third of them... :-\

9:49 pm

shortseer

ah i see you already see what i mean

9:51 pm

dimwit

yes, very interesting words in this one. Could I have the second letter for the s8 fabric please, it's not showing itself and I have to retire for the night soon..

9:53 pm

sleeky

sa

10:01 pm

dimwit

Ta sleeky, I have it at last :)

10:03 pm

Christine

Oh, please I have five 9s - 2Bs, one E, and two Is..... tell me there're no more, please....

10:06 pm

Christine

Periwinkle and Marigold -- is that a memorial candle, for your Mum?

10:18 pm

Christine

Whoo.... forgot to pluralise the L8... so now I have six 9s..... 172 for 2963, and I don't know what I'm missing.
It's 8:15pm in Los Angeles, and soooo hot - I love L.A.

10:31 pm

DaveC

So far I have....
233 words 5.21 for 4101points

They are:
A 15 P 18
B 24 R 18
C 17 S 42
E 7 T 13
H 29 V 10

I have a total of (6) 9 pointers, (9) 8 pointers and (22) 7 pointers.

I have to thank many of you for some of them, especially shortseer. You are too generous.
I 7
L 29
N 1
O 3

10:37 pm

shortseer

No worries, Dave ... i'm collecting good karma today ;)
I see i'm missing 2x B's
I have
11x BE
4x BL
7x BO
Can you tell me where your extra ones are?

10:41 pm

DaveC

Short...you have two BO's that I don't have! You are missing one BL and three BU's. Now I gotta search for those other BO's!!!

I just found two more c's....one was a seven for 36 and the other an eight for 50.

10:48 pm

DaveC

Shortseer...my BO's are points as follows:
4,4,4,6,7.

What are yours?

The BU's are: 4,6,7.

10:48 pm

shortseer

Haven't finished with the C's yet, so can't compare.
*Locks torture room C*
*Opens up torture room B*
Well my pretty B's ... you've been holding out on me.
It's back onto the torture rack for you B's.
Muwhaahaha

10:54 pm

shortseer

@dave
you are missing a fungus, singular and plural
6,7 after the first 4

11:04 pm

DaveC

Got the fungi, short.......how you makin out with the BU's?

Any clue on that rainforest one? Starting letter?

11:10 pm

shortseer

got the 3 BU's
.. somehow the Bu's had escaped their torture rack session ;)
--------------

rainforest : s---a

11:13 pm

boatierra

The last words-per-letter count was at 7:38. Does anyone have more than 201 words, and would be willing to post their counts?

11:15 pm

Christine

What, what, ... I have two BUs - a projectile, and an animal... there's a third??

11:17 pm

sleeky

There's also a prefix on the animal word.

11:19 pm

Q

A prefix on a BU wouldn't be another BU word. :) But if I hadn't put a smiley on this, I might be classified as the third BU word. I might anyway, I guess.

11:24 pm

sleeky

A *suffix* on the animal word.

11:31 pm

DaveC

So far I have....
242 words with an avg. of 5.25 points for a total of 4354 points.

They are:
A 15
B 26
C 19
E 10
H 29
I 7
L 29
N 1
O 3
P 18
R 18
S 44
T 13
V 10

I have a total of (6) 9 pointers, (10) 8 pointers and (25) 7 pointers.

11:33 pm

boatierra

Thanks for posting that DaveC.

11:35 pm

Juliet

DaveC, you are very good at this... I am done for the night with my 132 words, scoring 2450.. wooooo, go me...thanks for the hints all.... Night

11:35 pm

DaveC

You're welcome mulh...

Shortseer.....is the second letter on that rainforest a vowel or a consonant? :)

11:36 pm

shortseer

S61

11:38 pm

shortseer

row 1 S 36
row 3 S 25

11:38 pm

DaveC

I'm not very good....this is my best puzzle ever. I am usally almost a hundred shy of the mark. :) Let's just say I spent too much time on this one.

11:38 pm

sleeky

Could I have a clue on the fungus, please?

There was a rainforest clue a few down, that pretty much spells it out. ;-)

11:39 pm

Juliet

DaveC, since i've taken so many hints from you this evening, i'll jump in with the second letter you are looking for... it's an E

11:41 pm

Juliet

20 minutes

11:42 pm

shortseer

C7/8
blade on plow

11:44 pm

shortseer

25 C's

11:44 pm

DaveC

Darn that rainforest...I can't believe that I have three of the letters and can't find it. :(

11:45 pm

Christine

I din' know nuthin' about no rainforests.... so tomorrow I'll ask someone to post the word..... put me out of my misery.
Now to find that othe BU word...

11:47 pm

Juliet

psst Dave.. I would tell ya, but i'm sure i would get hurt in here..LOL... 3 letters, 2 to go.. (Not like you need the score..)

11:47 pm

sleeky

I got it through trial and error, myself. There aren't that many possibilities.

11:47 pm

DaveC

Got the darn rainforest. Man o man!

11:48 pm

shortseer

ever been beaten up by schoolyard b----s ?

11:50 pm

Juliet

uh oh, i'm addicted... minutes left and i'm still searching for the blade on the snow plow..LOL

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