12:04 am
rururocks
that one leaked pretty fast
12:05 am
harpjane
flippies
12:06 am
flosey
thanks fizz
12:07 am
cybernan
hi everyone
12:08 am
rururocks
hello nan
12:16 am
dizgrannie
nbt/nbs
12:17 am
cybernan
not seeing an 8 or a 7, but too tired -- this cold is realy wearing me down. Good night all
12:18 am
flosey
hope a good night of sleep will help Nan
12:19 am
licketySplitAUS
Clues are up
12:21 am
flosey
thanks Lickety
12:50 am
harpjane
oops thanks Lickety
1:21 am
flosey
whew! FW and off to bed, good night all
1:24 am
sprite
good morning all
1:25 am
Kamanjah
Hi Sprite, it's not quite morning here yet... ;)
1:26 am
sprite
*hugs Kam* A very good night to you then. Here, it is 8.25 am. Well into morning. I was up at 4 am, ughhh.
1:26 am
Kamanjah
Uggh! That's far far FAR too early! It is now 11:26PM here
1:27 am
sprite
wow, you still have all night ahead of you to sleep in :)
1:28 am
Kamanjah
Are you doing ok?
Yes, I have a good night's sleep ahead (I hope!)
1:28 am
sprite
I am okay. Not great, but hanging in there. How about you? And your husband?
1:30 am
Kamanjah
I'm doing quite well, DH is a bit stressed and tired...we saw the neurosurgeon yesterday. Things are moving along well for his surgery, but I know deep down he is scared of it
1:30 am
sprite
I don't blame him. Surgeries are scary and ones like this even more so. But at least you know he is in good hands.
1:31 am
Kamanjah
There are always risks...but 5% failure is minimal risk, and a 95% chance of not getting worse off is so amazing!
1:31 am
sprite
those are very good odds
1:32 am
Kamanjah
I think so. I'm scared too, though.
1:33 am
sprite
of course you are. Your beloved going into a risky situation and you not having any influence on it at all... having to trust the surgeon and the others to get him through safely... not easy to bear. Know that we are here for you.
1:33 am
Kamanjah
I think all will work out just fine...loved the surgeon...
Most neuro guys are so odd, but this man had an excellent personality, great eye contact, and is a good communicator
1:34 am
Kamanjah
It's good to know I can pop in most any night (for me) or morning (for you) and chat a bit.
1:34 am
sprite
absolutely. And if you need any of us when we are not here, just drop us an email and we'll get back at you as soon as we can. I know I can speak for Rose here too.
1:36 am
Kamanjah
Thanks! I appreciate that, and I know you gals will help hold me up if I need help. Hugs!
1:36 am
sprite
we will. That's what babblers do :) *hugs back*
1:37 am
sprite
interesting, that the neurosurgeon is such a communicative guy. Most surgeons in general aren't.
1:38 am
Kamanjah
I was almost shocked...definitely surprised! Eye contact, nice handshake, no rush, ready to answer questions...amazing!
1:39 am
sprite
when I had the gastric bypass, the surgeon was a weird duck. The interest on the other hand is one of the most social people I've ever met. Sense of humour too.
1:39 am
sprite
wow, that sounds so good, Kam. I am so glad. That makes the whole thing a little easier on you both.
1:39 am
sprite
interest??? Make that internist
1:40 am
Kamanjah
I'm sure they're trained as part of the program to make folks comfortable with brain surgery. All of the people I have dealt with there are so understanding and helpful, it's like I walked into an alternate universe of people who actually care!
1:41 am
Kamanjah
We have just hit the jackpot with doctors lately...after years of me running into a*holes, lol! DH deserves the best
1:41 am
sprite
I guess they have learned over time that it really pays to have more time and attention for their patients and family. In the long run, people will do better when they really trust their doctors.
1:42 am
sprite
I am glad, Kam. Having to deal with asshole doctors brings so much extra stress. This is great. And just what the both of you need.
1:42 am
Kamanjah
I think we just managed to stumble into a special research program. They don't charge us anything, and we get discount lodging near the facility! That's unheard of in the US
1:43 am
sprite
wow, that is not that common here either. Amazing!
1:43 am
Kamanjah
And their success rate is better when they take better care of their patients...so, win/win!
1:45 am
sprite
over halfway and just one 6, nothing bigger! Must be some kind of record in biggie suckage, even for me.
1:45 am
Kamanjah
I found out about them from another woman on FB - there are a few groups for PD wives only. Great support for us, the wives, and great info sharing!
1:45 am
sprite
that is so great.
1:46 am
Kamanjah
I'm having a pretty good go at this grid - only 6 left...
1:46 am
sprite
I am not doing well with this grid. Didn't do great on yesterday's either. Guess I am tired.
1:48 am
Kamanjah
It's that time of year...post holiday let-down, and resting up. I'll be glad when we hit a rest up period again - the testing DH has to go thru is hard and fast - and lots of trips far from home. Another weekend is coming up, hopefully you can rest up!
1:50 am
sprite
must be very exhausting, and extra hard when you are not well to begin with.
yeah, nothing much planned for the weekend. A shift for my volunteer job, bit of housecleaning and such.
1:52 am
Kamanjah
I hope you have a nice weekend! Relax!
1:53 am
sprite
definitely intent to. Lol, our daughter is housesitting for my sister, and she has the use of my sister's car. She is driving all over the Netherlands. She is about to arrive here, pick up the dog and take him to Nijmegen, which is almost at the other side of the country. She is gonna walk in the woods there, with him, and a friend who lives there.
1:54 am
Kamanjah
I just had to be horrible - the cat brought in another mouse...still alive. Poor little thing, it's going to sleep in the freezer. in a baggie. The last two got loose in the house, no more. Now I feel ill, sigh. DH slept through all the noise
1:54 am
sprite
aw poor Kam :((( that is a nasty thing to have to do. The cat loves you very much, that he/she leaves you such a precious gift. But ughhhh how horrible.
1:55 am
Kamanjah
Sounds like fun for your daughter - Caya? I'm not sure I have names correct...
1:55 am
sprite
you do, my girl is Caya.
1:56 am
Kamanjah
He can keep his gifts outside, or learn to do them in - we're on an acre, so cats are supposed to get rid of rodents, not let them loose inside the house! ugh...shiver
1:56 am
Kamanjah
Caya is a very pretty name. Is there a history with the name? I've not heard it before.
1:56 am
sprite
I'am afraid it is what cats do. They show their attachment to you that way. Not fun :(
1:58 am
Kamanjah
I know, have always had cats, just not one quite like Buster, lol! He's crazy. He cleans DH - as in stealing earrings and trying to steal the necklace DH wears.
1:58 am
sprite
we were considering calling her Isis, after the goddess of fertility. Then my husband came across the name Caya, which is related to Gaia, mother earth. We liked that even better. So now she is Isis Caya, with Caya as her usename. We considered Caya Isis, but decided that kind of sounded like an illness, lol
1:59 am
sprite
he sounds like quite the character! I love it when pets are like that.
2:00 am
Kamanjah
He is THE character of our cat family! I'll email you my fave pic of the gang.
2:00 am
sprite
oh please do! I'd love that.
2:02 am
Kamanjah
I love the Gaia connection, beautiful choice!
2:02 am
sprite
thank you :)
2:02 am
sprite
if you like, I can send you a link to Caya singing one of her songs
2:03 am
Kamanjah
Would love that!!
2:05 am
sprite
this is a song she wrote for a friend of hers. His girlfriend was suicidal and blaming him.
https://tinyurl.com/y8q5pubu
2:06 am
sprite
her hair is short now though
2:07 am
Kamanjah
I'll check it out when DH isn't sleeping 10 feet away!
2:07 am
sprite
hehehe good idea.
2:08 am
Kamanjah
She's very pretty!
2:08 am
sprite
*proud mama nod* I agree :)
2:08 am
Kamanjah
Well, I finished up the puzzle, need to hit the sack earlier than usual...I always stay up too late! Will email you.
2:09 am
sprite
lovely, looking forward to reading it. Sleep well, dear one. *hugs*
2:19 am
sprite
definitely time to list
2:24 am
sprite
fireflies. *leaves hug in chog for rose to find*
3:57 am
rubyfoo
Good morning. Is anybody here?
3:58 am
zoozzoom
Hello, Ruby. Although I will be going for my bath soon :-)
3:58 am
rubyfoo
105 words, but Nothing bigger than 6
3:58 am
rubyfoo
((zzoozz))
3:59 am
rubyfoo
Have you found the W?
3:59 am
zoozzoom
I have 39 words left.
3:59 am
rubyfoo
We are Lucky here; the predicted windstorm didn't arrive. Phew!
3:59 am
rubyfoo
l have 41 left
4:00 am
zoozzoom
Sorry was just checking how much more water needed for the bath.
4:01 am
zoozzoom
The W is WU 5/20
4:01 am
rubyfoo
aaah, thanks
4:01 am
zoozzoom
We had a storm a couple of days ago called elanor ro something like that. we had 90 mph winds.
4:02 am
rubyfoo
They predicted that "she" would come here, but she didn't
4:02 am
zoozzoom
I have a OR 8/45 think of maps
4:03 am
zoozzoom
Maths term.
4:03 am
rubyfoo
got it, thank you!!
4:04 am
zoozzoom
A seven think of going to the loo number one lol
4:05 am
rubyfoo
You are terrific! Thanks for the help; now l have NBT and NBS
4:05 am
rubyfoo
(you are very discreet LOL)
4:06 am
rubyfoo
See you later xx
4:07 am
zoozzoom
Take care ((Ruby))
4:07 am
zoozzoom
My phantom is : Fountain.
4:07 am
zoozzoom
time for my bath. Happy babbling everyone!
4:55 am
sukee
Good morning all. Brr, brr, brr. Here it is -21C and the wind chill makes it feel like -30. I am sitting in my apartment wearing a fleece jacket and a scarf. Too cold to even have a shower. But, it is supposed to get better.
5:45 am
MollyL
Shivering right along with you. Here it is 9, feels like -4. It is supposed to get better in a few days. 40's and 50's. Whee! That will feel balmy compared to this.
6:29 am
rubyfoo
Hello again
6:30 am
rubyfoo
NBT and NBS this morning
6:30 am
rubyfoo
Hello Molly
6:31 am
rubyfoo
l feel sorry for my friends in Florida and my sister in NY.
6:31 am
rubyfoo
I can't remember temps this cold or so prolonged.
6:32 am
MollyL
It is brutal here.
6:32 am
rubyfoo
Is your house warm?
6:32 am
Uneaixoise
Hello all ....14 here in Nashvegas
6:33 am
rubyfoo
You need dogs to cuddle!
6:33 am
Uneaixoise
My daughter in Maine: high tomorrow TWO!
6:34 am
MollyL
I will stick to warm clothing.
6:35 am
rubyfoo
When my hands get very cold, l bury them in Rufie
6:35 am
Uneaixoise
I agree Ruby.... I've got 3 smugglers ;)
6:35 am
Uneaixoise
SNUGGLERS
6:35 am
rubyfoo
smugglers.....hmm
6:36 am
MollyL
Oh darn. I thought we had finally learned the truth about why Une does all that "transporting"
: D
6:36 am
Uneaixoise
Hee hee!!!
6:38 am
Uneaixoise
Back in a bit...
6:42 am
MollyL
Ruru is in the grid today. He gets the Babble tiara.
: )
6:43 am
MollyL
And what a shame. All the letters for fornicate but not in the right order.
6:43 am
rubyfoo
Close, but no cigar
6:46 am
rubyfoo
lt's not even 2PM and l'm falling asleep, the quinessential old ladt
6:54 am
MollyL
And you know what Freud said about cigars
: D
7:19 am
aebmusica
no.....what did Freud say about cigars, Molly?
7:31 am
pcal2
sometimes a cigar is just a cigar...or words to that effect
7:32 am
pcal2
funnily enought i just came across that in a book im reading
7:33 am
aebmusica
ty pcal
8:00 am
mkg
hi all. clue for the 8 please.
8:01 am
ursh
if you organise stuff you co+or8/45
8:07 am
mkg
how about a clue and stat for w word? ty
8:08 am
aebmusica
the best of times and the w.... or times
8:08 am
aebmusica
of times
8:10 am
mkg
ty got it. wrong vowel but ok.
8:10 am
mkg
stat for the s words please. ty.
8:10 am
aebmusica
u got the vowel from the stats
8:11 am
mael
it's the w---- of times when you run out of beer at octoberfest
8:11 am
aebmusica
so true
8:12 am
BzznBea
st6/21 and st5/12
8:49 am
moolingwa
morning all
9:06 am
penquis
hi mool...
9:16 am
Shirlockc
unrut = repave a road
9:17 am
penquis
i like it...
9:19 am
periwinkle
help with lower U pls
9:19 am
penquis
un 5....bring people together....
9:19 am
periwinkle
ty was looking in wrong direction
9:29 am
wvteach
stats for the upper U pls
9:29 am
penquis
ur 5/12....don't have the other yet...
9:30 am
penquis
duh....ur 7/32 also...
9:30 am
wvteach
thnx - got them both
9:37 am
penquis
i am heading out....bbl to find my last 20....bye all....
10:02 am
cybernan
good morning everyoe
10:04 am
therealblah
morning nan
10:10 am
worzel
Don't you hate it when you're in a really foul mood and can't put your finger on why?
10:16 am
penquis
could be dysthymia if it is chronic...it's a milder form of depression....you can be cranky, out of sorts for no reason....
10:17 am
worzel
That's interesting pen - I was diagnosed with depression about a year ago. It usually just leaves me feeling worthless and VERY quiet, but today I'm spoiling for an argument lol which is SO unlike me - I wouldn't say boo to a goose!
10:18 am
penquis
well being irritable is also a symptom of depression....
10:18 am
penquis
medication can help...
10:18 am
Shirlockc
then i'm depressed all the time!
10:19 am
penquis
well it is a chronic condition... ;o)
10:19 am
worzel
True but I've never suffered grumpiness with my depression. It may just be one of those days, hopefully I'll be full of cheer tomorrow
10:20 am
BzznBea
I'm feeling the same way, worzel. I think it is cabin fever here.
10:20 am
penquis
well if the problem continues or recurs often, you might want to talk to your doctor about it...
10:20 am
worzel
I feel for you Bea - it's no fun feeling grumpy is it lol?
10:21 am
BzznBea
If you ask my family, they would tell you I'm grumpy all the time. =)
10:21 am
Deeha
worzel - think it is the weather!Doesnt seem to have stopped raining since before christmas - except when it was snowing!
10:22 am
BzznBea
I'm grumpy enough today that I have turned my phone off. I don't want to deal with anyone!
10:22 am
penquis
lack of sleep....and poor sleep....can also contribute to grumpiness....
10:22 am
Shirlockc
may i do a shameless self promotion here?
10:22 am
worzel
The weather doesn't bother me too much. I know a lot get S.A.D but I can cope with long summer nights or short winter ones. I do apologise to everybody if I've bought the mood down
10:23 am
worzel
Go for it Shirlockc
10:23 am
Shirlockc
Start the new year by reading a short story! mine! i'm published in this anthology: http://amzn.to/2AwIFFd
10:23 am
Shirlockc
if you like the story, please post a review and also tell all your friends!
10:25 am
worzel
I shall investigate that Shirl - anything to cheer me up! And wtg you for getting published!
10:25 am
Shirlockc
it's got words and it's what we here at babble love, words!
10:26 am
penquis
it's not a problem, worzel....
10:26 am
penquis
nice, shirl!
10:26 am
worzel
I'll be back in a bit folks. I'm away to get myself a brandy! (Don't panic, I'm not a heavy drinker - I usually have one or two brandies a year so I think I've earned one!!) Lataz folks xx and thanks for listening xx
10:28 am
phaeton
Hello, right side R stats please
10:28 am
penquis
bye, worzel...
10:29 am
Chessbobble225
Ro4 /5
10:30 am
Chessbobble225
And you can add an extra vowel to that, giving you
10:30 am
Chessbobble225
Ro5/12
10:31 am
penquis
ro 5/14, too....
10:34 am
Chessbobble225
Also there is 2 ro5/12 - they have the same first four letters
10:36 am
bichon
ro 5/14, first one, pls
10:37 am
Chessbobble225
A pathway
10:38 am
bichon
Chess don't understand
10:38 am
cybernan
8 left and stuck - bbl
10:39 am
Chessbobble225
The clue is pathway, for ro5/12
10:40 am
BzznBea
Done for today...bzzz
10:40 am
phaeton
A pathway without the vowel on the end...ro4/5
10:40 am
Chessbobble225
Oh whoops! So sorry, ro5/14 the clue is circular shape
10:40 am
bichon
looking for the first ro 5/14
10:41 am
phaeton
Ahh...two ro5/12
10:43 am
Chessbobble225
Np
10:50 am
Chessbobble225
Help with bottom right A pls
10:52 am
Judi
Good morning, all. Uh oh. Ruru's in the grid.
10:54 am
kje
stats for the 8?
10:54 am
MollyL
And so is fornicate, almost. : D
10:54 am
Chessbobble225
Got ai thanks but the season
10:54 am
Chessbobble225
Got ai thanks but the season
10:54 am
Chessbobble225
Seacond ‘an’ can I have a clue
10:54 am
phaeton
Yw chess
10:55 am
phaeton
Diff vowel on the end
10:56 am
Chessbobble225
?
10:57 am
phaeton
An4 both are the same ending with different vowels
10:58 am
Chessbobble225
Then i got the wrong an4/4
11:01 am
phaeton
There are only 2 and one ai4
11:02 am
Chessbobble225
Yep sorry my computer was glitching, i have them all now, thanks so much.Xxx
11:03 am
Judi
Sure. Blame the computer.
11:04 am
phaeton
I always blame the connection when I have to use wifi.
11:12 am
rururocks
greetings loyal subjects...I'm king for the day today :D
11:13 am
ch1212
All Hail Ruru!
11:14 am
Judi
Oh don't encourage him.
11:15 am
jwr
Off with her head!
11:15 am
MollyL
All Hail Ruru? Do you pay people to say things like that?
: P
11:15 am
rururocks
exactly.. dilly dilly
11:16 am
Judi
Off to lunch. 30 left. *POOF*
11:16 am
ch1212
Oh, he'll get my bill... ;)
11:16 am
rururocks
*remodels the PB to the Throne Room*
11:16 am
Shirlockc
who told you so, dilly dilly, who told you so
11:22 am
mkg
i would love a clue for any of the 7s? thanks. i have none of them yet.
11:22 am
rururocks
I like how my name is so centered in the grid..
11:23 am
doseffing
.. ur ... to pee
11:24 am
doseffing
... tu + consonent + to eat a meal
11:24 am
KnightTime
true ru, the stones are missing
11:24 am
doseffing
... fr + an unit of weight
11:32 am
jwr
I don't want to know what the definition is of that word -- it's way too much fun imagining what it would look like
11:32 am
Deeha
fornicate - sooo close!!!
11:32 am
mkg
struggling with ur word.......is there a second u in that word?
11:33 am
Shirlockc
2 urs -- one is the act, the other is the product
11:33 am
doseffing
... I looked up the fr ... it's very mundane ... but imagine it with a gerund ending
11:33 am
jwr
look at doseffing 11.23
11:34 am
jwr
that was for mkg
11:34 am
mkg
ty. looking.
11:35 am
jwr
oh do, just think of southern belles at a ball, with sweet speech impediments
11:35 am
mkg
ty for ur 7. got it.
11:35 am
jwr
in a sour mood
11:36 am
jwr
wall-frowers
11:38 am
mkg
ty for tu. got it.
11:38 am
mkg
still searching for the fr word.
11:39 am
mkg
got the fr word. ty ty ty.
11:40 am
jwr
mkg did you check out doseffing's clue at 11:24?
11:40 am
mkg
yes i did jwr. ty.
11:40 am
jwr
congrats! Pretty funny word, isn't it?
11:40 am
MollyL
Yes, it helps to read back in the chat for clues.
11:41 am
penquis
i like your pic, molly.....just got done shoveling out my car....
11:48 am
bichon
ti 5/12, pls
11:50 am
doseffing
... a colouring ... but with an extra consonent before the end ... ... usually seen with "ure" after it
11:51 am
Mary
sorry free clue
12:00 pm
Shirlockc
never be sorry for free!
12:05 pm
MollyL
The motto of loose women everywhere
: D
12:19 pm
wvteach
look at what Mary put in chog 11:51
12:19 pm
penquis
rhymes with where your teeth are....
12:19 pm
mkg
sorry dont have it shirl.
12:19 pm
mkg
any coues for do 7? ty
12:20 pm
Shirlockc
heh, 2 free clues then
12:20 pm
Shirlockc
extend the do4 above
12:21 pm
wvteach
no list - stats for D4 above
12:22 pm
Shirlockc
hmmm, lickety is working for me, but in any case, the do above is 4/6
12:23 pm
wvteach
i have not chosen to list yet
12:24 pm
Shirlockc
you're much more resolute than I!
12:26 pm
mkg
i am confused. the dr 6 is like do above it??????huh?
12:27 pm
penquis
the dr 6 rhymes with where your teeth are...
12:37 pm
MollyL
Yep, just like what Mary put in the chat at 11:51. Again, it helps to read back.
12:57 pm
bichon
ur 7/32, pls
1:02 pm
MLFAN17
hello all
1:03 pm
MLFAN17
hego love that icon
1:03 pm
MLFAN17
hego uhh kinda lol
1:04 pm
MLFAN17
2nd column e?
1:04 pm
hego
Just starting
1:04 pm
MLFAN17
me too hego
1:05 pm
wvteach
there is no 2nd column E
1:05 pm
MLFAN17
bichon to pee
1:05 pm
MLFAN17
sorry third column e??
1:05 pm
hego
Just noticed that Teach
1:05 pm
MLFAN17
yw bichon
1:05 pm
wvteach
EC 4 and ET 4
1:13 pm
Shirlockc
anyone need clues?
1:14 pm
hego
no Shirlocke. Hangin' in.
1:18 pm
Chessbobble225
Help with 4th Collomn ‘R’ ro5/14
1:19 pm
Chessbobble225
No don’t worry i just found it
1:22 pm
HarryHood
clue for the upper U anybody?
1:23 pm
hego
I have the un and 2 vowels
1:24 pm
montreal13
liquid body waste harry
1:24 pm
HarryHood
ty mont. nbt :)
1:25 pm
montreal13
np harry
1:25 pm
HarryHood
36 to go here. wind is wild today
1:25 pm
montreal13
same here harry - minus 18 C (around minus 1 F) AND windy
1:26 pm
montreal13
hi hego
1:26 pm
bichon
I'm afraid to go home to CT next week. We've been in CA
1:26 pm
HarryHood
I shovel and shovel and the wind blows it all back where it started.
1:26 pm
HarryHood
bichon you gotta face the music
1:27 pm
montreal13
by next week, the worst will be over bichon...
1:27 pm
bichon
The worst will be over, but I have to get someone to plow the driveway
1:27 pm
montreal13
there's that...
1:28 pm
montreal13
shovelling here is almost a daily routine...
1:29 pm
bichon
If we were home, we would have done it
1:29 pm
montreal13
c'est sur...
1:30 pm
HarryHood
supposed to be in the 30s by next week. absolutely balmy
1:30 pm
montreal13
yes harry, we'd love to see that here as well !!
1:33 pm
montreal13
27 left for later - nice seeing you harry and bichon - keep warm - poof
1:33 pm
HarryHood
33 to go - going to the list
1:33 pm
HarryHood
bye mont
1:34 pm
montreal13
bye for now
1:43 pm
moolingwa
in 6 is plural of in5
1:43 pm
MLFAN17
duh ty mool and hello
1:49 pm
mkg
any clues for or 6? ty. have the 8. is it similar?
1:50 pm
wvteach
also just have the 8 - will help look for 6
1:51 pm
cybernan
hi again - back for the last 8
1:51 pm
GeekMan
mkg - same letters just remove two
1:51 pm
cybernan
or 6 = decorative as in the rococco style
1:51 pm
MLFAN17
same here, looking for that 6
1:52 pm
hego
leave the third and fourth letters out od 8
1:52 pm
bichon
ho 6/24, pls
1:53 pm
cybernan
ho 6 - ugly, nasty
1:54 pm
Chessbobble225
FIREWORKS!
1:54 pm
bichon
yeah chess
1:54 pm
hego
Good job chess!!
1:54 pm
Chessbobble225
THANKS!
1:55 pm
wvteach
stats for last 7 - have FR, DO, UR
1:55 pm
cybernan
cr 5/14 please?
1:55 pm
wvteach
congrts chess
1:56 pm
Chessbobble225
Cr5/14 is coagulated blood
1:56 pm
cybernan
thought that was a clot
1:56 pm
Chessbobble225
Yeah they are the same
1:57 pm
wvteach
ends with anagram of pronous for things that belongs to us
1:57 pm
Chessbobble225
coagulated blood, or the portion of the blood that forms the clot. That’s the definition
1:57 pm
cybernan
ty teach
1:57 pm
Book Doctor Gwen
structure (is my phantom) hi all
1:59 pm
MLFAN17
I am out poof
2:02 pm
cybernan
2nd fo 6 please?
2:03 pm
bichon
fo + double consonant + I, you, he, she, **
2:04 pm
cybernan
ty bicho
2:05 pm
bichon
ho 5/16, pls
2:06 pm
cybernan
nothin but a dog
2:09 pm
cybernan
*!* - any clues wanted before I leave?
2:09 pm
hego
congrats Nan!
2:10 pm
cybernan
ty - on my way...hagd everyone
2:10 pm
wvteach
stats for last 7 - have FR, DO, UR
2:11 pm
hego
there is a tu 7.
2:13 pm
wvteach
any clues for TU 7 appreciated
2:13 pm
hego
sorry, that's all I have
2:14 pm
hego
sounds like a small stool
2:14 pm
hego
and not the kind you sit on
2:18 pm
moolingwa
ur7, to pee
2:18 pm
moolingwa
fr7 fr + old unit of measurment
2:19 pm
moolingwa
do7 - do + pee :)
2:25 pm
bichon
ou 6/24, pls
2:25 pm
hego
compund word Bichon
2:27 pm
bichon
ty hego FW
3:17 pm
wvteach
i have EC 4/6 and ET 4/4 - stats for the E i am missing
3:46 pm
MLFAN17
i have the tr 5 ending in e help with the other one pls?
3:48 pm
NANCY
mil, if it is not a lie then it is the tr---
3:49 pm
MLFAN17
hi nancy ty
4:22 pm
phandmd
hello! still nursing this dang head cold. Was glad to get off work early today.
4:22 pm
phandmd
might I get a clue for the TU 7 please
4:23 pm
phandmd
NM, just monkied it.
4:50 pm
moolingwa
crappy word really
4:51 pm
phandmd
down to 4!
4:55 pm
phandmd
2! clue for the first FO 6/27?
4:57 pm
lynxxx
fo & the cops may take your fingerp**** (but don't know if this is the 1st)
4:58 pm
phandmd
it is and that is the one combination I did not think of! Thank you, Lynxxx
4:58 pm
lynxxx
yw and found the other one thanks to you
4:59 pm
phandmd
lol. Glad to be of service!
4:59 pm
phandmd
and now FW!
5:00 pm
phandmd
thanks! do youneed any clues?
5:00 pm
lynxxx
Thanks but going to be a stinker (hot) today so enjoying pecking at the grid
5:01 pm
phandmd
enjoy your heat! It is bitter cold here on the East Coast of the US!
5:01 pm
lynxxx
so I gather - never seen so many comments
5:03 pm
phandmd
It's bad! Makes taking the dogs out very hard!
5:04 pm
moolingwa
still 15 to go here, and hey there lyn :)
5:04 pm
lynxxx
Didn't think about that
5:05 pm
moolingwa
My wife wants to get a dog, until I point that you have to walk it in the winter :)
5:07 pm
lynxxx
You just need one with long legs so they don't disappear in the snow
5:07 pm
moolingwa
well, we get the cold, but generally the smowfall is on the smaller side
5:07 pm
moolingwa
I remember getting over 2 feet of snow one storm when I lived in Pennsylvania
5:08 pm
moolingwa
my wife though is more averse to the cold
5:08 pm
moolingwa
she grew up in Miami
5:10 pm
lynxxx
maybe a cat then - Abyssinian are very doglike in nature
5:11 pm
lynxxx
and because they are hunters often recommended to be kept indoors and never outside
5:13 pm
lynxxx
Yay - found my last 7
5:14 pm
moolingwa
Yeah, we have three cats
5:14 pm
moolingwa
yay for finding all the 7s
5:16 pm
lynxxx
Am sure the 3 cats would love having a dog in the house to beat up
5:22 pm
moolingwa
yeah, our babysitter brought her dog over, and one of the cats (they're less than 6 months) put him in his place
5:25 pm
lynxxx
the ou combo seems to be in a lot of my missing words
5:32 pm
lynxxx
bit unhappy struth isn't accepted
6:05 pm
dan2bit
can I have a clue for the ho6 that isn't the stinging insect?
6:07 pm
MollyL
There was a little girl, with a little curl, right in the middle of her forehead. And when she was good, she was very, very good, and when she was bad, she was ho6
6:10 pm
dan2bit
ty Molly, for the flashback and the firewords!
6:27 pm
MollyL
That's okay Dorens, we won't tell anyone how you are feeling.
6:38 pm
Trifioso
hello dear friends, if anyone is out there.....
6:43 pm
dan2bit
hiya Trif
7:12 pm
penquis
hellooo....
7:34 pm
origami
One more week at my job and then I am off to my new one and semi-retirement! Woohoo :D
7:34 pm
penquis
i am done....
7:35 pm
penquis
what is your new job?
7:36 pm
origami
A half time budget and program manager job. Pretty much what I do now with fewer spinning plates and part time - and 8 minutes from home.
7:37 pm
origami
And, between my pension and new job I will be making more $$.
7:40 pm
penquis
excellent!
8:01 pm
harpjane
hello, what are the stats for the top U please?
8:03 pm
penquis
ur 5/12 and ur 7/32...
8:05 pm
featherbee
hey gang!
8:05 pm
penquis
hi bee...
8:06 pm
featherbee
nice to see some familiar faces
8:08 pm
Jennkaz
Thanks for inviting Featherbee!
8:08 pm
featherbee
there you are!
8:08 pm
featherbee
so let me know if you get stuck!
8:08 pm
featherbee
I'm doing it now too, but am only two words in, lol
8:08 pm
penquis
welcome, jenn....
8:11 pm
penquis
well i am heading out....goodnight all....
8:11 pm
featherbee
jenn, sometimes the grids can have 300ish words
8:11 pm
featherbee
night pen
8:12 pm
featherbee
on smaller grids, people finish them early and don't hang out much. on bigger grids, you'll see more people chatting.
8:14 pm
Jennkaz
That’s crazy!
8:15 pm
featherbee
some people hang out just to help clue others who are finishing
8:16 pm
featherbee
I went through a phase where I had to finish the whole grid every day. Then life got in the way.
8:16 pm
hurshy
amen to that
8:17 pm
hurshy
but ugh, i'm so depressed
8:17 pm
featherbee
hi hursh!!!
8:17 pm
featherbee
you ok?
8:18 pm
wvteach
*** finito *** last word CU 5/14 - second day in a row with no list
8:18 pm
wvteach
any clues needed?
8:19 pm
featherbee
congrats teach!
8:19 pm
featherbee
what's wrong hursh?
8:19 pm
hurshy
teaching is too hard
8:20 pm
wvteach
are you just starting or are you a "veteran"
8:20 pm
hurshy
just starting
8:20 pm
wvteach
what do you teach
8:20 pm
hurshy
4th/5th grade
8:21 pm
wvteach
split grades are tough positions
8:21 pm
origami
Welcome aboard Jenn
8:21 pm
hurshy
yeah, it's a real small school, so, i've got the entire 4th and 5th grade
8:22 pm
hurshy
i didn't realize how much harder it would be, yeah, with two grades
8:22 pm
Jennkaz
I taught 4/5 for 8 years. It is a tough combo but a great age. I’m sorry you’re having a hard time....What’s the main struggle?
8:22 pm
wvteach
do you have any mentor teachers assigned to you or is there someone in your building that you can feel close enough to to talk with them
8:22 pm
featherbee
holy cow, that would be tough
8:22 pm
origami
My son was in a a2nd/3rd grade combo class when he was in second grade and it was really, really good for him.
8:23 pm
hurshy
i have a new mentor teacher, a retired teacher, yeah, it didn't get assigned until more recently
8:23 pm
wvteach
split grades are twice the preparation for a teacher
8:23 pm
hurshy
and today the admin was talking about like, how in 4th and 5th grade the kids should still be 'shielded' from stuff
8:23 pm
featherbee
and the first few years are HARD anyway, to get everything in place and ready. I can't imagine starting with two grades.
8:23 pm
hurshy
which is pretty much the opposite of my entire teaching philosophy
8:24 pm
wvteach
talk with that person and let them know what is happening and hopefully they can make some suggestions. sometimes just knowing that there is someone right there to help can make it feel a little better
8:24 pm
origami
Hope you get the help you need hursh. That sounds tough.
8:24 pm
hurshy
and then classroom management is just so darn hard
8:25 pm
featherbee
as a veteran teacher, i can tell you it does get easier, but you need to be able to survive the first few years. yep, classroom management is definitely an art.
8:25 pm
hurshy
the admin are going to come in and see how things are to help me figure out the management things. but i feel ashamed to need that.
8:25 pm
origami
"Shielded from stuff?" What does that mean? Don't kids live in the real world?
8:25 pm
wvteach
classroom management, I think, is the hardest thing for all new teachers. I used to supervise student teachers for the university and that was often the critical issue for these "new" student teachers
8:26 pm
featherbee
I got a book from this website a few years ago that may be helpful: https://consciousdiscipline.com/
8:26 pm
hurshy
i had mentioned that santa isn't real, off the cuff, and apparently that was very not ok
8:26 pm
hurshy
oh i have books up the wazoo
8:26 pm
featherbee
ohhhhhhh shucks, that's a tough age for that
8:26 pm
featherbee
my fourth grader hasn't admitted he doesn't believe, he's in a gray zone for it
8:27 pm
hurshy
that's the problem, there's too much info, too much advice, too many strategies, it makes me dizzy. i need a "do these three things, period."
8:27 pm
wvteach
never feel ashamed of asking for help - be glad that they are there to offer you help. I taught for msny yers and supervised for many years, and there were still particular groups that challenged me to the limits - even after many years of experience.
8:27 pm
origami
Oh, gosh. I see a whole new generation of perfect snowflakes emerging.
8:27 pm
featherbee
he's let slip comments that tell me he knows, but he won't come out and say it. they like to keep the magic going for a little longer at that age.
8:28 pm
hurshy
in my family santa was just not a big thing. we didn't care. i don't remember ever actually believing in santa. it was just another fairy tale, like jack and the beanstalk.
8:28 pm
featherbee
do these three things: learn about your students. connect with them. be consistent.
8:28 pm
hurshy
yeah but i am having a real hard time being consistent, cause i'm absent-minded.
8:29 pm
hurshy
i forget who has had a warning already and needs the next step
8:29 pm
origami
I don't know how teachers do it. If I was in charge of a classroom, chaos would rule because I would try to be everything that my teachers were not.
8:29 pm
featherbee
i had a kindergartner this year start a debate with some other kids that he wasn't real. I pulled her aside and said "some kids believe in him, and some don't, and that's ok. you don't have to believe in him, but do me a favor, and don't try to correct those who do." or something along those lines.
8:29 pm
hurshy
yeah in K-1 i realize the kids will generally believe
8:30 pm
featherbee
4th is a hazy area for belief
8:30 pm
hurshy
i figured in 2-3 is when they find out the truth, by 4-5 they know. but apparently not.
8:30 pm
wvteach
get a system of writing it down. I was in sp ed where we had to document lots of "stuff" and you learned techniques of how to position charts around the room to tally things throughout the day
8:30 pm
featherbee
nope, not all of them yet
8:30 pm
featherbee
well, learn and move on. don't beat yourself up over it.
8:31 pm
hurshy
so i tried to start that wv, and then the admin said they don't want it up where everyone can see it. but if i track it privately on a paper i keep with me, then how do my aide and i BOTH use it?
8:31 pm
wvteach
definitely move on - I have been retired ten years but I remember "years ago" saying the "wrong" thing about global warming and heard about it from one of the parents
8:32 pm
featherbee
i find what works best for me is highlighting the positive in my room. i also look at misbehavior as teaching moments. i taught 4th my first year, but then switched to K.
8:32 pm
hurshy
but the main thing is, if they want me to shield them in general, i have been doing the exact opposite. i don't see any point in teaching them history at all if i am not honest about how violent and awful much of it has been.
8:33 pm
wvteach
some of the sp ed teachers (and their aides) wore wrist counters. wear an apron with lots of pockets and keep a note pad chart for each. If it is in your pocket - or even on your desk - it is not publically available for all to see
8:33 pm
hurshy
the main thing i want to do is tell kids the truth. so if they want me NOT to, it's like... might as well shut me down completely.
8:34 pm
featherbee
it's a hard balance, between being truthful, and not scaring them
8:35 pm
hurshy
right, well, i'm trying to give them the tools to deal with it as i tell them things
8:35 pm
featherbee
that's good
8:36 pm
hurshy
i honestly have started to think that elementary students should perhaps not have science or social studies at all.
8:36 pm
featherbee
do you ever have opportunities to go visit other classrooms to observe?
8:36 pm
wvteach
as long as you can documnet what you say and back it up with other authorities. give them an ability tosee that there are differences in beliefs and to respect (not disparage) these differences.
8:37 pm
hurshy
i have two days of that this year, feather, had one in the fall and one coming up this month
8:37 pm
featherbee
excellent. i always loved being able to do that. I learn so much from watching others.
8:37 pm
wvteach
unfortunately, in our elementary grades they have basically eliminated a lot of science and social studies to just focus on reaing and math
8:37 pm
featherbee
trying to reach halfway before i get a list. at 50 found.
8:38 pm
hurshy
yeah but teach i'm more talking about like, FACTS. nobody questions that there was cannibalism in the donner party. but they don't say it in the book, even though they tell them ABOUT the donner party. and i'm like, either do not put the donner party in, or say the actual reason why it is famous.
8:39 pm
hurshy
and they actually seemed to be DIScouraging me from getting them to think and analyze at a higher level.
8:40 pm
hurshy
that they shouldn't be doing that until jr high
8:40 pm
featherbee
depends on if they're ready or not
8:41 pm
hurshy
well, i mean, that's where the scaffolding comes in
8:42 pm
hurshy
some are more ready than others, and i try to help give them what they need, whatever their readiness
8:42 pm
wvteach
if you can help them to become better in their higher level thinking, then I would think that would be encouraged
8:42 pm
hurshy
and they in fact have all seemed to be perfectly ready, and the only ones who aren't doing it successfully are the ones who are just not caring about their schooling
8:43 pm
hurshy
yeah i thought so too, teach.
8:45 pm
wvteach
even without having split grdes there will be some at different levels of thinking skills, but those at the higher levels can model it for others.
8:46 pm
hurshy
my most sensitive girl has turned out to be perfectly able to handle the ugly truths. the times she cries in class are the times she can't remember the definition of a word, or how to find the area of a rectangle, not when she finds out some awful historical thing.
8:48 pm
wvteach
i don't know what type of communityyour school is located in, but I always had to be very aware of the diverse backgrounds that my students came from - diverse nationalities, religious, family educational backgrounds. I was careful to avoid some topics. There are many other teaching moments that avoiding some is not really a problem.
8:50 pm
hurshy
well that's part of the thing - the diversity necessitates the truth to some extent. the kids whose heritage includes wrongs done to them by others in history deserve to have that acknowledged
8:53 pm
hurshy
i don't know how to study california or US history without saying that wrongs were done to native americans
8:56 pm
wvteach
i think that you could discuss how wrongs have been done to many groups throughout our history - German americans during the world wrs, Japanese Americans during the world wars, Muslims during the current times - we have singled out many groups at different times. I think it all needs to be balanced
8:57 pm
hurshy
right. but if they want me to teach it like the book teaches it, as if nothing was any big deal... then i don't want to teach.
8:57 pm
wvteach
If I were teaching a specific historical event such as the Trail of Tears, I would talk about the wrongs. But I would not point out wrongs that don't go with the events that I am teaching
8:58 pm
hurshy
they do go with the events i am teaching
8:59 pm
featherbee
help with the cr5 please?
8:59 pm
hurshy
but for instance, the social studies book will talk like this, "the US wanted to grow. the only ways to do that were to buy land or to get more through a war. so we had a war."
8:59 pm
wvteach
I never taught in high schools, but I would hope that the middle school and high school texts would discuss these things in more detail. With elementary school social studies, it is more to lay a foundation of a basic historical frmework
9:00 pm
wvteach
I have never seen texts that would say emotionally charged statements like that. They seemed to just present very factual historical - who did what, when and where
9:02 pm
hurshy
i saw the textbook statement as trying to BE not emotionally charged, trying to be matter of fact and talk like things are just "what happened" and no big deal.
9:02 pm
wvteach
CR 5 - CR + anagram of proun things that belong to us
9:03 pm
hurshy
and i'm like, BUT IT IS A BIG DEAL!
9:03 pm
featherbee
got it, ty
9:04 pm
wvteach
Hurshy - need to go, but I hope that you can feel better about your teaching. Find a co-worker that you can feel comfortable talking with. That's what often got me through the tough days - and someone to "brag" about the good days
9:04 pm
hurshy
thanks teach, see ya later
9:08 pm
featherbee
dr6 please?
9:10 pm
hurshy
wish i could be more help feather, i just haven't been finding words so much as just chatting
9:10 pm
featherbee
no prob, i'm moving down the list
9:11 pm
featherbee
i want to finish this one, and don't want to be up late, so am moving along as quick as i can.
9:11 pm
featherbee
wish i could give you good advice
9:12 pm
hurshy
go back in time 3 years and tell me to become a bookkeeper
9:12 pm
featherbee
or tell you to hang in there, it gets better?
9:12 pm
featherbee
i remember struggling my first years also. the first years often are a trial by fire.
9:12 pm
hurshy
if my private life were good maybe that would be easier
9:13 pm
hurshy
i just don't have a whole lot good in my life, not much that makes life seem worth living
9:14 pm
featherbee
definitely look into the conscious discipline book. it's more of a philosophy of how to discipline that i've found aligns very well with the things i discovered for myself over the years.
9:14 pm
hurshy
i have one called "conscious classroom management" - sounds like it might be similar?
9:14 pm
hurshy
but i feel like i get the philosophies, i just struggle with implementation
9:14 pm
featherbee
possibly, not sure
9:15 pm
featherbee
well, the implementation for the conscious discipline isn't a "keeping track" kind of thing.
9:15 pm
featherbee
it's more about how you frame your classroom culture.
9:16 pm
featherbee
your earlier statement concerns me. do you struggle with depression or thoughts of suicide? I've been there. I lost a best friend to it. Let me know if I can help.
9:17 pm
hurshy
i have struggled with depression all my life, as well as anxiety.
9:18 pm
featherbee
do you have any particular ways to cope with it?
9:19 pm
hurshy
i'm on an antidepressant. switching to a more meaningful type of job was one of the ways i hoped to cope with it. years of therapy led me to that point.
9:19 pm
hurshy
my marriage sucks, i don't have close friends that i can really talk to much, certainly none local.
9:20 pm
featherbee
therapy is good. it sounds like you're under a lot of stress, which will make the anxiety worse. the first year IS stressful, no matter what.
9:21 pm
featherbee
are you still seeing a therapist? if not, i'd say go back, for sure.
9:23 pm
hurshy
i don't have time to right now. i don't even have time to keep my house clean.
9:23 pm
featherbee
scrabbler always tells me to talk back to the anxiety with truth. such as: this is my first year. I can't be perfect the first year. Teaching IS hard, but I can learn. Etc...
9:23 pm
origami
Just got back on. So sorry you are having such a hard time hurshy. I have been there. Email me if you want to talk.
9:24 pm
featherbee
I would highly suggest seeing if you can fit in the time. If nothing else, to have someone local you can talk to.
9:24 pm
hurshy
yeah, i mean, i can do that, and that's all well and good, but i need things in life that make me happy. currently, i have just two. one being my cats. and the other being something that may go away in a year.
9:24 pm
featherbee
Heck my house isn't clean either!!! I've learned to step over things and look the other way.
9:26 pm
featherbee
To get all Buddhist on you: the only thing that can make you happy is you. Other people/objects will always change. You are the only thing you can control. Sorry if I sound preachy, it's just something I've learned and am always having to re-learn, but it's a good truth.
9:26 pm
hurshy
if the only thing that can make me happy is me, then i really need to be suicidal.
9:27 pm
featherbee
no, no, the WRONG way I was trying to take you!!!
9:28 pm
featherbee
would you like to talk on the phone? i'm not very good at it, but i can listen pretty well.
9:29 pm
hurshy
thank you feather, but, i don't know that i have much else to say really.
9:31 pm
featherbee
1-800-273-8255
National Suicide Prevention Lifeline
In case you need it.
9:35 pm
featherbee
As I said, I lost my best friend to suicide. Even if you're not to the point where you have a plan or anything, but just wish you could stop being here, please reach out. Call that line, or call your former therapist, or call somebody that may be able to help you. I want to help you right now, but don't really know how. I obviously can't make things instantly better.
9:37 pm
featherbee
When I had a miscarriage, and had several other factors that were stressful happening, I remember having that feeling of "I wish I just wasn't here anymore." It's awful. But there are people who can help.
9:43 pm
featherbee
i'm still here, working on the grid, if you want to chat more.
9:51 pm
hurshy
thanks feather
9:53 pm
featherbee
you're welcome.
9:53 pm
hurshy
my dad's the same way as me. he has pretty much wanted to commit suicide ... every day for as long as i can remember? i mean, maybe not in so many words, but basically. we have religious belief preventing us.
9:55 pm
featherbee
That's hard. I'm glad you have a belief that keeps you here. It doesn't make getting through each day any easier though, I'm sure.
9:58 pm
featherbee
wow. i just monkey-typed two of the super easy un words. didn't realize what they were until i was hitting enter.
10:03 pm
hurshy
yeah i've had that babble experience.
10:07 pm
featherbee
down to 11
10:08 pm
featherbee
anyone around have the dr word?
10:12 pm
featherbee
hursh, think you might consider going back to your therapist? i know time is precious, especially when you have to get everything ready for school, but you're important too.
10:22 pm
maggiej
ou 6 any hints?
10:22 pm
featherbee
i'll take hints for that one, lol
10:23 pm
featherbee
or the or8
10:23 pm
maggiej
hmm out pace
10:23 pm
featherbee
ahhhh ty
10:23 pm
featherbee
i'm tired, 6 left, not seeing them
10:24 pm
maggiej
still have 20 to go
10:24 pm
maggiej
tired also
10:27 pm
featherbee
sheesh, missed the fish
10:28 pm
featherbee
my final 2 are the dr6 and or8, if anyone has them
10:29 pm
Natasha
hi all, can someone clue the do7 please?
10:29 pm
Bugsaw
or word pertains to how a person becomes a religious leader in the Christian church, if that helps
10:30 pm
Natasha
thanks, bugsaw!
10:30 pm
featherbee
ty bugs, got it
10:31 pm
featherbee
do + pee
10:31 pm
hurshy
feather - i can't go back to MY therapist, i moved.
10:31 pm
Natasha
ty, feather
10:32 pm
featherbee
ohhhhhh, i see hursh.
10:33 pm
harpjane
dr word?
10:33 pm
featherbee
my school has a thing called EAP, employee assistance program...you can call that to get hooked up with a therapist, or other things you might need.
10:33 pm
hurshy
in retrospect, perhaps my husband should have held out for a job offer in the area. but it seemed crazy to turn down two good offers with no particular local ones on the horizon.
10:34 pm
featherbee
I get the impression a lot of places have EAPs
10:35 pm
Bugsaw
hurshy - I too have been where you are. When the best you can do is breathe, smile and walk, then that is what you do. It takes you from hour to hour, day to day, week to week and during this time your brain chemistry heals itself. Imagine that someone else has your problems. Treat yourself the way you would treat them. It works to be compassionate with yourself. Sending hugs and love
10:37 pm
Natasha
harpjane, the dr6 is another way to spell a period of dry weather
10:40 pm
featherbee
yay! thank you!
10:41 pm
Natasha
you're welcome
10:43 pm
featherbee
heading out. hursh, i'll be thinking of you.
11:20 pm
maggiej
te 5/12 any hints?
11:25 pm
harpjane
it's a babblet, maggie, ending in two vowells
11:25 pm
harpjane
not getting the dr dry weather clue
11:27 pm
Uneaixoise
dr + you put food in your m++++ and chew
11:29 pm
Uneaixoise
fo6 please?
11:31 pm
Uneaixoise
FW!!!
11:32 pm
maggiej
need 5/12 not 5/10
11:34 pm
Uneaixoise
t + n****r of the gods
11:38 pm
Turt
clues for two cr? not seeing them
11:41 pm
ursh
cr4/11 is the cr** of the matter
11:44 pm
Turt
got that ty ursh. still can't see the other
11:44 pm
cybernan
cr + not me + either's partner
11:45 pm
cybernan
hi all - just waiting for the flip
11:45 pm
ursh
dr + no me but yo* and do you want one ** two
11:46 pm
ursh
oops i mean cr
11:46 pm
Turt
that's a word? lol ty ursh
11:50 pm
ursh
whew fireworks - time for a 2nd cup of morning coffee before the flip