Babble: Archived Puzzle for Friday, October 1, 2004

12:10 am

Tolinya

woot me first

12:18 am

boatierra

Damn the erst!!

12:24 am

Krys10

189 words today. Four are 8+

12:28 am

boatierra

Thwap is to a word!! I am positive I have seen in in a caption ballon for a Batman storyline...anti-comic dictionary...

12:37 am

Krys10

Wow! I have all the long words... three nines and an eight.

12:39 am

boatierra

BTW, to anyone wondering....my 12:18 post was refering to yesterday's puzzle, and that is the one E word I missed...

12:44 am

boatierra

67 for 662, and largest words are two 6's. Done for the night.

1:01 am

Tolinya

if i see fetch 1 more time....

poof

1:11 am

Krys10

I don't believe it! A useless trivia word I've had in my head for fifteen years! (W6)

1:22 am

runningforhome

Hurray, I found two of the nines!

6:52 am

Christine

...EUWOP... off the southern coast of England??

7:27 am

goforit

BabbleStats

By word length:

4 .... 94
5 .... 53
6 .... 28
7 .... 14
8 ..... 1
9 ..... 3
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total 193
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By start letter:

A .... 14
C .... 25
D .... 8
E .... 8
F .... 10
H .... 23
i .... 3
L .... 10
N .... 4
P .... 19
R .... 7
S .... 8
T .... 30
W .... 24

9:33 am

jlm_mi

My big words so far. Hopefully someone else can help fill in blanks:

9-66 P
9-96 P

7-48 A
7-52 H
7-52 H
7-36 P
7-56 P
7-48 R
7-28 T
7-28 T
7-52 W

I have not used the X yet. Has anyone?

9:35 am

Boo

I'm only at 66, but I haven't used the X yet.

9:37 am

Boo

and I have an 8-letter D word.

9:38 am

Boo

and the third nine! (don't have the first two, though) It's related to the 8-letter D word

9:39 am

Treble99

I have the 9/66 but havent found the 9/96

9:40 am

jlm_mi

I found the 9 at the same time you did, and would probably have not thought to try the 8 without the hint. Thanks!

So, add 9/60/D and 8/45/D to the list. :)

9:40 am

Boo

It's fun to be able to be helpful :-)

9:41 am

jlm_mi

The 9/96 builds off a 5 and uses a different meaning for that word than the two meanings I was familiar with.

9:57 am

jlm_mi

Add a 7/T/36 before the 2 7/T/28s.

9:58 am

Krys10

goforit, what solver did you use? you got different stats than me.. (189 vs 193)

10:01 am

Krys10

g'morning! I don't have your 7H's yet, but I do have two 7-52 W's.

10:05 am

Krys10

Oh! and I have another 7-36 P.

10:10 am

jlm_mi

Krys - The boggle/tangleword solver uses the enable lexicon, same as babble, so it generally gives accurate results on the count.

But, it doesn't actually give a count (you have to count the words, which are given in lines of 10) so it's easier to mess up and look at them.

Also, when I was doing stats it was easier to use the boggle/wordracer solver because it gives the words in a list, rather than in "paragraph" form, and my script could handle the list. Apparently goforit's script can handle the "paragraph" form better, so it's great to get such complete stats from that solver!

10:12 am

Krys10

i'm glad to know that the people who usually do the stats have better easier methods than counting each word like I did the other night!

10:41 am

fnurt

My search for a W7/52 led me to WAILETH which sounds Biblical enough to be a word, darnit. I have a 7/52 starting with Wa, is the other one a Wh word?

10:47 am

jlm_mi

Yes, and I'd guess you have the 5 letter root word of it already.

10:57 am

fnurt

Oops. ;)

10:59 am

4t8

are your teeth nice and bright? :)
(am not being cheeky, just hinting)

11:00 am

4t8

oh! you winked just now. never mind... i like waileth though. wish it accepted more "eth" words; they always sound so poetic...
i "rethaw" stuff now and then!

11:05 am

runningforhome

Can anyone help me with the H- and R-7s?

11:07 am

runningforhome

Oops, found the R.

11:09 am

jlm_mi

One of the H 7s is just like a W7, but with an H. :) The other, think bowling.

11:16 am

runningforhome

Thank you, I got them both. :)

11:21 am

Krys10

The bowling one still escapes me.
I'm one word short for a few letters - hopefully someone can help:
F's: FA4x3, FA5x3, FA6, FR4, FR5
L's: LE4x5, LE5, Li4x3
R's: RE4x2, RE5x2, RE7 (ok, two short)
S's: SE4x2, SL4x2, ST4, ST5x2

11:25 am

jlm_mi

You are missing:

FA6 for 33 points
RE4
SE6 for 24 points

11:30 am

jlm_mi

I also have some letters where I'm missing 1 (or 2):

AC4x4, AC5x2, AC7
AF5, AF6
AH5
Ai4
AW5

DA4x2, DA5, DA6, DA8, DA9, DE4

PA4x2, PA5x2, PA9
Pi4x3, Pi5x2, Pi6x2, Pi7x2
PO5, PO7, PO9

11:33 am

runningforhome

I have an RE6, Krys10.

11:35 am

Krys10

jlm - I'm missing some of yours, but I do have an AW6.

11:41 am

fnurt

There is an Li5 out there.

11:56 am

Krys10

Are there two FA6's? I already had one...

12:00 pm

jlm_mi

Krys10 - Yes. :)

12:21 pm

Krys10

There's still one A, one D, and a few P's unaccounted for, I believe.
I'm on E: I have four 4 letter words and a 5. The fours all have a different second letter.

12:26 pm

jlm_mi

I have 4 Es - 3x4 (each with a different second letter) and a 6, which is a verb tense change of one of the 4s.

12:30 pm

Krys10

Whoops, I'm sorry - I had an E6, not an E5. Low on caffiene today.

12:30 pm

jlm_mi

OK, found another 4 and the 5 leaving 2xE unaccounted for. There are only 2 Ps unaccounted for, unless I messed up on my list below.

12:30 pm

jlm_mi

Ah, well there is an E5 then. ;)

12:45 pm

Krys10

W's? WA4x5, WA5x2, WA6x2, WA7x1
WH4x4, WH5x3, WH6x3, WH7x1

12:50 pm

stevedallas

you are missing at least 1 wh4

1:05 pm

jlm_mi

I also have a WO4.

1:06 pm

Krys10

Thanks. Must tear myself away.. must keep family from starving...

1:31 pm

Minski

I have a question.
Looking for spelling given definition.

The word is for that thing in your sink that the water comes out of or that thing on the side of your house that you attach a hose to.

I think it is a 6 letter FA word.

1:33 pm

youngster

It won't accept the spelling I would have used! I assume you're the same?

1:36 pm

Tolinya

I think it has a u in it...that's probably why it won't accept it.

1:37 pm

Tolinya

you can't get to the 4th letter if you use the 'u'

1:38 pm

youngster

That's why we tried using the 'w' :-)

1:40 pm

Minski

Still missing

FA/6X1

Have all the Ls.

1:40 pm

jlm_mi

It's definitely faucet, and not in this puzzle. :)

1:41 pm

Minski

Yep.
Just googled it and the most popular spelling is with the U not the W.

1:41 pm

runningforhome

The two F6s are very similar.

1:45 pm

jlm_mi

How 'bout some more letters:

CA4
CE4x2, CE5x2
CH4x6, CH5x3, CH6
CR5

HA4x3, HA5x2, HA6, HA7
HE4x5, HE5, HE7
Hi4x3, Hi5

TE4x4, TE5x2, TE6x3, TE7
TH4x3, TH5
Ti4x4, Ti5x3, Ti6, Ti7x2

1:48 pm

runningforhome

I have 3 CE4s.

1:50 pm

runningforhome

I mean 4 CE4s... and 3 CE5s.

1:52 pm

runningforhome

And one more CH5.

1:56 pm

jlm_mi

Helter is so a word!!!!! How else could one run helter skelter? :-D

1:57 pm

runningforhome

Sorry for not thinking to put all these in one message... I also have 6 HA4s.

2:02 pm

jlm_mi

Thanks - I would not have tried all those Scottish H words, but there are only so many places you can go to find 6 HA4 words! :)

2:09 pm

stevedallas

i have 2 ch6's

2:10 pm

jlm_mi

I now have CH4x7

2:20 pm

Krys10

I have 5 Ti4s

2:30 pm

Krys10

the TE7 - how many points is it?

2:31 pm

runningforhome

36 points.

2:31 pm

Fishbulb

My thoughts exactly Jlm_mi. Helter IS a word! lol :o)

2:48 pm

jlm_mi

I now have TE5x3.

2:51 pm

Boo

I don't think there have been any clues for the missing D word (have there?) but I found it: a second Da word (a Russian countryhouse or villa)

2:52 pm

Krys10

A second DA? There's a bunch..

2:53 pm

Krys10

Ah, I see - two DA5's. Thanks!

2:53 pm

jlm_mi

I'm guessing Boo meant a second DA5 or DA6, but don't know which.

2:54 pm

runningforhome

Only nine words to go... still missing an A, four Cs, two Ps, two Ts, and a W.

2:54 pm

Boo

sorry, yeah it's a Da5.

2:55 pm

runningforhome

Make that 13 words to go... forgot about the 189/193 thing.

2:56 pm

runningforhome

Also missing two Es and an H.

2:56 pm

Krys10

There are two sevens out there that haven't been mentioned - does anyone have all 14 of them?

2:57 pm

runningforhome

Found one of the Es; it's an EC/6/33.

2:58 pm

Treble99

I only have 7 7s

2:58 pm

jlm_mi

Well, then RFH, you've been holding out on us! :-D

Care to share stats for the Es, Hs and Ts? I'll post what I've got and maybe you can fill in the blanks?

EA4
EL4
ER4
ES5
ET4, ET6

HA4x6, HA5x2, HA6, HA7
HE4x5, HE5, HE7
Hi4x3, Hi5

TE4x4, TE5x3, TE6x3, TE7
TH4x3, TH5
Ti4x5, Ti5x3, Ti6, Ti7x2

3:01 pm

Krys10

jlm_mi, there's an EL5 out there.

3:03 pm

jlm_mi

Thanks, that wraps up the Es! :)

3:04 pm

jlm_mi

I think RFH has one more C, one more H and two more Ts than have been posted so far.

3:06 pm

runningforhome

Looks like we've found all the Es, but here are my Hs and Ts:

HA4x6, HA5x3, HA6, HA7
HE4x5, HE5, HE7
Hi4x3, Hi5

TE4x4, TE5x3, TE6x4, TE7
TH4x3, TH5x2
Ti4x5, Ti5x3, Ti6, Ti7x2

3:14 pm

Boo

am I counting wrong? Aren't there supposed to be 8 Es?

3:14 pm

jlm_mi

Yep, there are. See posts at 2:57, 2:58, 3:01.

3:15 pm

boatierra

Oo, oo, the 'IT' word from the 2000 election is in the puzzle.

3:15 pm

Boo

oops, didn't see the clue about the Ec.
Thanks.

3:15 pm

Krys10

Yep:
ea4
el5
el4
er4
et4
et6
Plus an ec6 and an es5 that I haven't found yet.

3:16 pm

jlm_mi

Indeed, mulhermujer. Don't leave it hangin'. :-D

3:19 pm

Krys10

could I have a hint for the TE7? I'm never going to get to the gym at this rate!

3:20 pm

boatierra

I'm dangalin' here!!

3:22 pm

jlm_mi

The TE7 is the plural of a male falcon, which is one letter added to a 5 letter word meaning the third canonical hour.

3:23 pm

Krys10

got it, thanks.

3:26 pm

jlm_mi

The last A is an AC6.

3:27 pm

marigold

perwinkle..... you have mail

3:31 pm

jlm_mi

And the last W word is a WA4.

3:32 pm

marigold

do the two 9 letter p words built off of the same 5 letter p word? please

3:32 pm

Krys10

no, but they have the same suffix

3:33 pm

jlm_mi

marigold and periwinkle - Just a suggestion here. I'm not trying to be critical or anythng, but wouldn't it be easier for the two of you to chat privately during babble via an instant messenger, rather than email. Then, you'd know automatically when you have a message from the other one. ;)

3:33 pm

Treble99

Could somebody put a list of the 7s on so I can see what I'm missing. thanks

3:34 pm

Krys10

I'm missing two:
7-48 A
7-52 H
7-52 H
7-36 P
7-36 P
7-56 P
7-48 R
7-36 T
7-28 T
7-28 T
7-52 W
7-52 W

3:43 pm

runningforhome

I found another seven, an H for 52. It's possibly the most ridiculous word ever.

3:45 pm

runningforhome

And the last two Ps!
A 6/24 and a 7/36 combo, building on a 4/6.

3:48 pm

Treble99

Could you give a clue for A7 and H7s please.

3:49 pm

Krys10

11:09 AM clue for the H's. A7 is what I'll be after I get back from the gym.

3:53 pm

Krys10

RFH - I had your 6/7 combo. Wonder where I misread, because I'm still missing two P's...

3:54 pm

seaotter

Hey thanks Krys10! Got the A7.

3:54 pm

Treble99

thanks I got the A7

3:56 pm

jlm_mi

Krys - There are 3 x 7/36/P including the one for the 6/7 combo. (Actually, two 6/7 combos and a stand-alone).

I like the last H7 word!

3:59 pm

runningforhome

Krys - there is another P6/7 combo that is the same amount of points and only differs by one letter; do you have that?

3:59 pm

Krys10

yeah, I have three 7/36's. I think I'm missing something else:
4 5 4 5 9 4 4 5 5 7 4 6 7 6 5 7 9

4:02 pm

jlm_mi

I matched your Ps to mine. You're missing:

a 6 and a 7 between the first 7 and the 4 that follows it
another 6 near the end, so the end goes 6 5 7 9

4:03 pm

jlm_mi

Krys - Are you sure you don't have 2x7/36/P and 1x7/56/P? The way you've written your Ps makes it look like that's the case. :)

The final order for 7s is:

7-48 A
7-52 H
7-52 H
7-52 H
7-36 P
7-36 P
7-36 P
7-56 P
7-48 R
7-36 T
7-28 T
7-28 T
7-52 W
7-52 W

4:04 pm

Fishbulb

I must be missing a few words, I haven't used the X once - or the D in the corner or the P below the X. :o(

4:05 pm

Krys10

d'oh! you're right. thanks.

4:10 pm

jlm_mi

Just found a CH5/CH6 combo.

Fishbulb - There is no guarantee that you will use every letter.

But this morning at 7:27am log time goforit posted the statistics as to how many words there are, how many start with each letter and how many are of each length. Compare your words to that and you'll see what you're missing.

Also, throughout the log (which is worth reading thoroughly if you like hints) there are hints to the various words that can be extremely helpful.

4:11 pm

Krys10

Is that your second CH5/6 combo?

4:14 pm

jlm_mi

Yep, although actually it's my first alphabetically. :)

Just found a TH5. 3 words to go!

4:15 pm

jlm_mi

Posted too soon. There is a TH6 to go with the TH5, but the TH6 does not end in S. ;)

4:15 pm

Treble99

Cant get 7H bowling clue

4:16 pm

jlm_mi

And the missing C words are a CH4 and a CH6.

193/3205

4:19 pm

Krys10

Agh! This P thing is too aggravating. I'm done for the day: 179/2846

4:28 pm

runningforhome

Finally done!
193/4.88/3205

10:31 pm

sleeky

I love your nick, Fishbulb. :-)

11:21 pm

boatierra

Just in case anyone wants a list of just about any Names of Males, Females, Babies, and Groups of Animals, you can go to:

http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/animals/Animalbabies.shtml

Quite an incredible site. But an excellent resource for all kinds of words.

I was going thru today's messages and saw the one about the male falcon, and found the word on this site. :)

11:27 pm

boatierra

I'd really like to have to two P9 words. Does anyone have any clues they could give out? I know the point values already, and that one is Pa, and the other is Po. Are there any other clues to be had? And I have already read thru all of today's messages.

11:30 pm

fixitfmly

mulher --
I just found them and they're sort of pathetic words . . . add a suffix meaning 'the most' to some simple 5 ltr words you have.
HTH ;-)

11:33 pm

boatierra

I tried 'one who spreads liquid color a lot' , 'one who stacks a lot' and 'one who takes a lot of illegal game', but no go with all three of those. I only have three 5 letter P words. I'll look for more. Thanks for the clues. I had a feeling I was looking for something to do with them 'the most' suffix. :)

11:39 pm

boatierra

Arg!!!!!!!!! I'm getting nowhere very fast...

11:41 pm

fixitfmly

mulher --
add an 'i' to the 'most' ending -- the liquid color is one, the other is one who trespasses in order to kill wildlife
;-)

11:41 pm

boatierra

Anyone, any other clues for the P niners???

11:44 pm

boatierra

Ah jeez, I would have NEVER thought of that. One freakin' letter. Thank you so much :) Hope I can return the favor on some future game ;)

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