12:00 am
rbud
haha, at least I finished my thought before the flip... hi, all
12:01 am
hurshy
i looked back at what you said
12:03 am
cybernan
hello everyone :)
12:04 am
hurshy
yeah, this is a ten year old whose family is emotionally abusive, and the incident that made my sister (a counselor) tell me to report it was that her parents put some of her stuff in a backpack and threw it outside and like pushed her out as well, "kicking her out", at which point she injured her foot, presumably trying to jam it in the door to prevent being shut out. i don't know how long ago this was. and i can only assume they would have let her back in shortly and that it was just a really inappropriate scare tactic, but, she certainly believes they could possibly kick her out for real, because, she can't understand adult mentalities.
12:06 am
hurshy
even if you're wrong, if you have "reasonable suspicion" and you're a mandated reporter, you face criminal charges for not reporting, so...
12:07 am
rbud
awww, poor kid. That's a tough one. But probably would get investigated and then discarded as unproven, I would bet. That's how it goes with a lot of cases, seems to me. Not guilty or innocent, just unproven. But maybe some attention would help them think twice about what they're doing.
12:08 am
rbud
and yes, mandatory reporting, you do what you have to do.
12:08 am
hurshy
my fear is that it will make things worse -they'll be angry with her for bringing shame on the family
12:10 am
rbud
boy, it's a hard one to call.
12:11 am
Nef
Hihurshy. That sounds like very inappropriate adult behavior. Is this poor 10 year old of a different culture?
12:11 am
hurshy
yes, her family is chinese. the parents don't really speak any english. the grandmother has lived in the US longest and speaks some english.
12:12 am
Nef
I just got here & went back to see what the situation was.
12:14 am
hurshy
well now the hardest part for me is, i called our VP to tell her that i was going to report, and then she said ok, i've done my duty by telling her and she will file the report. only what i am reading online seems to indicate that that may not be considered fulfilling my duty by the state.
12:17 am
hurshy
and i feel so scared and anxious about it. and it struck me that that must be how she feels A LOT of the time.
12:17 am
Nef
(I just put my response in the wrong box & am on my new iPad & can’t copy & paste yet.)
12:19 am
Nef
I wanted to say that the parents need to know that that isn’t appropriate behavior when dealing with a 10 year old in our society, etc.
12:20 am
licketySplitAUS
Clues are up
12:20 am
Nef
What does your state require for a report?
12:20 am
Nef
Thanks lickety
12:21 am
hurshy
yeah. it's just so sad overall. i guess the mom was very sick after the girl was born, and did not really bond with her. the grandma yells at her a lot and sometimes threatens to leave if she doesn't get better grades. she's terrified the grandma will leave because her parents are worse.
12:22 am
hurshy
for the grandma it sounds like it's a combo of genuinely thinking that threats will force her into doing well in school and not being able to control her own temper.
12:23 am
Uneaixoise
Eeeewwww possum in the backyard under the bird feeder!
12:23 am
hurshy
it sounds like i'm supposed to call the county department of social services
12:24 am
Nef
Well, hurshy, you can call them & explain the situation. They should have an interpreter o
12:25 am
hurshy
yeah. i'm going to see if my sister agrees that i need to call myself, and then probably call tomorrow. cause i want to give more background and detail than what i briefly told the VP, and express my concern about possible retaliation on her for talking about the family problems
12:26 am
Nef
Available to explain to the family that that isn’t helpful in our society. Social service people are normal people (99% of the time
12:27 am
hurshy
yeah. and this is california, after all. i HOPE we have a better than average social services system.
12:28 am
Nef
Do call yourself. I once called on *mysel* - but didn’t intend to get followed by social service for a year!
12:30 am
hurshy
it'd be hard for them to follow me as i'm moving in june
12:32 am
Nef
No, *I* called the Crisis Nursery linenot understanding what it was and how it worked. Both of our kids are ADHD; & when our daughter was about 5; she was a
12:35 am
Nef
Not a nice kid to her older brother & took after him with a knife 1 time when the 2 were alone for 1/2 hour or so. She really wanted hid piece of cake (she’d already eaten here)
12:37 am
Nef
(I gotta get used to this iPad!) Anyway, she ate her piece of cake & wanted his, so took after him with a knife. He locked himself in his room & she body-slammed the door, cracking the wood trim.
12:38 am
hurshy
shows how stressed i am by this that i only just noticed the bottom row of the grid is all grey to begin with...
12:38 am
cybernan
crash - 25 for tomorrow
12:38 am
cybernan
good night everyone
12:39 am
dizgrannie
ps 5 x 2
12:39 am
hurshy
ah yes, thanks diz
12:42 am
Nef
I got all upset & wanted to get her out of the house overnight, so called the crisis nurses & asked if I could do that. NOPE, that’s not how it wotked. So social service followed us for a year; - & decided we needed a weekend every month with *our son* in a foster house! Goofy but true. (And that wasn’t the problem; she was,)
12:43 am
hurshy
gosh, i'm sorry to hear that, nef
12:46 am
Nef
Our daughter is 36 now; & I joke she’s never slept through the night yet. We can look back on it & laugh now, but she’s vowed never to have kids because she’s afraid of what they might do to her!
12:48 am
hurshy
yeah i don't have my own. kids are fun in a way, but i need to be able to get away from them at the end of the day.
12:49 am
dizgrannie
mo 8/9
12:49 am
Nef
And our son ended up only going to that foster home about3-4 weekends. It was a single mom, & she had 1 child; the same age as our date. Who had a crush on our son & wouldn’t leave him alone!
12:52 am
Nef
Both kids are productive adults, so it all worked out in the end (even if they didn’t outgrow the ADHD)
12:55 am
hurshy
this girl, i think also has ADD (maybe H, maybe not), but i'm sure living in fear also undermines her ability to focus in school
1:04 am
sprite
good morning all
1:05 am
Nef
I think when you call social service, maybe ask/ remind them that it’s inappropriate to kick a 10 year out or threaten to leave her. I think people don’t realize the cultural differences indisciplining kids.
1:07 am
sprite
yay, a good K grid
1:08 am
Nef
Ow are you doing, sprite? I’m not usually online so late anymore
1:09 am
sprite
on the mend, Nef. Second surgery on wednesday and then I hope I can start training with a pt. And how are you doing?
1:11 am
Nef
Getting old (obviously, since I can’t get chat in the Chong & words in the “at word†box ;-)
1:17 am
sprite
if I wasn't using lickety's babble browser, that would happen to me all the time too
1:21 am
Nef
My hubby gave me an iPad for our anniversary. Unfortunately; Lickety doesn’t work on apple devices.
1:22 am
sprite
true. I remember him wanting to make a version for Mac, but he doesn't know enough about Macs and he needed someone with that knowledge. Didn't work out, alas.
1:25 am
Nef
True. I think it’s bedtime for me now, my bt
1:25 am
sprite
sleep well, Nef, and happy dreams
1:25 am
Nef
my eyes won’t stay open much longer.
1:26 am
sprite
time to call it a day then... or you will end up with the keyboard imprinted in your cheek
1:26 am
Nef
Good night. And take care of yourself, sprite!
1:26 am
sprite
although... not much of a keyboard on an iPad I guess
1:32 am
worzel
Why so many small grids of late? Come on Babble, give us a 500 plus one!!
1:32 am
sprite
hello worzel
1:32 am
worzel
Hey Sprite, how you doing?
1:34 am
sprite
getting there. Second surgery on wednesday and then I hope I can really start recovering
2:06 am
Kamanjah
Sprite, are you still here?
2:16 am
sprite
I am, honey. How are you doing?
2:16 am
sprite
had to make a bathroom run and did not make it... bit of a mess :(
2:18 am
Kamanjah
Hangin' in - step-daughter's wedding is next weekend. You have to have another surgery?!! I hope it goes well and doesn't cause too much more pain. Sorry 'bout the mess...hate when that happens
2:19 am
sprite
me too, makes one feel so lousy. And cleaning it up is taxing. Ah welll, all done. Sorry to hear you are having a tough time. Counting down to the wedding?
2:20 am
sprite
yeah, the surgeon wants to take out the big screw that goes through the joint. It is not a big surgery, if all goes well I will be home by evening.
2:21 am
Kamanjah
Dreading the trip, but hoping all is beautiful for her special day. I've been feeling terribly rough lately
2:21 am
Kamanjah
Well, taking a screw out sounds hopeful! Sounds like you're healing ok and don't need extra hardware!
2:22 am
sprite
I think so too. The surgeon said that if I were to put weight on it, the screw would break off. So it has to go if I am to take up walking and excercising!
2:23 am
Kamanjah
Then it's good news! Walking is the result we all want for you!
2:25 am
Kamanjah
Well, I have to get ready for bed - new pact is for me to try to get in bed by 12:30...I have 6 minutes to brush my teeth and wash my face...I'm late already! Good to "see" you for a bit. Good luck with the next procedure! *Hugs!*
2:25 am
sprite
sleep well, dear one. Will keep you in mythoughts and prayers. Things will work out. *hug*
2:26 am
sprite
+ a space somewhere
2:26 am
Kamanjah
Things have a way of working out! *Hugs!*
2:28 am
sprite
fireflies. To you all, a blessed day and a peaceful night. And for Rose an *hug*.
2:59 am
Marc Freeman
ma6 the last one please?
3:32 am
jwr
marc, did you get the golf one?
3:34 am
Marc Freeman
I got the first one which is an extension of ma potatoes, I need the last ma, please
3:34 am
jwr
well, if there are only two, find the golf club
3:35 am
jwr
ah, sorry. That's the one you did get. That's all I have, I'm afraid.
3:39 am
lshult
clue for the mo8/9 plz anyone?
3:41 am
Marc Freeman
mo8 single sit down to eat but change the first vowel then pl for the 9
3:49 am
lshult
finally got it,ty
3:50 am
ivesy3
i dont get the sit down to eat
3:52 am
Marc Freeman
me4 change the
3:52 am
Marc Freeman
change the 'e'
3:52 am
Marc Freeman
me4 is not in the grid
3:55 am
ivesy3
ty marc got it finally!
4:04 am
Marc Freeman
sh6, please?
4:11 am
MollyL
sh + ____ and Andy radio show set in Harlem.
4:12 am
Marc Freeman
thanks
4:13 am
MollyL
Oh good, I wasn't sure if that clue was too old or obscure.
4:14 am
Marc Freeman
Actually it was perfect but what are doing up so late or early.
4:15 am
MollyL
I'm one of those people who goes in to work early for the benefit of leaving early.
4:18 am
Marc Freeman
Whenever I go to bet early I wake up early it makes for a tough cycle. In any case thanks I am finished so HAGD
6:21 am
periwinkle
hi all not getting themo8/9 clue
6:23 am
periwinkle
I think I figured out the first part but not the last
6:25 am
doseffing
... it only sounds like sitting down to eat
6:25 am
doseffing
... it means a single number
6:26 am
periwinkle
got it ty
6:38 am
MollyL
Maybe a different clue for the mo8/9...singular prefix + what comes after do and re + Mr. Gore
: D Happy Friday everyone
7:11 am
mattygroves
That's a good clue - thanks!
7:11 am
mattygroves
Sorry!
7:34 am
wvteach
stats for the I pls
7:35 am
wvteach
duh - thnx
8:09 am
bichon
hi 6/24, pls
8:11 am
BzznBea
hi + electronic note minus the i
8:12 am
MollyL
Electronic message maybe? Note makes me think music
8:12 am
LuvWordGames
thanks Bea :-)
8:13 am
BzznBea
Yes, I thought of that too, Molly.
8:13 am
BzznBea
Not firing on all cylinders today...
8:15 am
BzznBea
I'm off for the day...see you all tomorrow...bzz..
8:43 am
mkg
hi all. need clues for the 8 and 9 please. ty
8:48 am
MLFAN17
stats for a 6 pls?
8:48 am
MLFAN17
ty you too mkg:)
8:50 am
mkg
just not seeing the 8 or 9. hmmm.
8:51 am
MLFAN17
me either
8:51 am
MLFAN17
and not getting the hi 6 either
8:53 am
mkg
hi + vowel+ dessert animal: ca***.
8:53 am
mkg
oops wrong vowel for the dessert animal. change vowel. sorry.
8:54 am
MLFAN17
does it end in e?
8:55 am
mkg
no. i will try again: hi+ vowel, + a kind of drink is a ***ted milk shake
8:56 am
MLFAN17
got it ty mkg
8:57 am
MLFAN17
I keep thinkning the mo8 starts with mo 4/5?
8:59 am
jzw
yes. one of them
8:59 am
jzw
The one that is short for an illness teens get
9:00 am
MLFAN17
jzw the mo 8/9 are not related is that right?
9:01 am
hokie carla
not often the first word I see when I come on is 6 letters
9:02 am
MLFAN17
I didn't have any and that one had already been clued
9:04 am
Nef
Mo8 = teens illness + when you eat it’s called a ****, just change the first vowel
9:04 am
Nef
The mo9 is pl
9:04 am
MLFAN17
hi nef ty
9:05 am
hokie carla
hmm, I thought I followed those directions perfectly, but what I came up with was not in the dictionary :D
9:06 am
MLFAN17
I had to type it in about 3 times before it would take
9:07 am
hokie carla
got it, was using the wrong vowel. there aren't even enough for what I was trying.
9:07 am
MLFAN17
the right word for the mo8 comes up with a definition but I don't think its a disease
9:07 am
hokie carla
just by looking I would guess it means one number
9:07 am
Nef
It’s singular term or number
9:08 am
MLFAN17
it does look like that doesn't it
9:08 am
m9f9l
More used to seeing the poly..
9:08 am
hokie carla
so I was close!
9:08 am
m9f9l
Yay algebra!!
9:08 am
MLFAN17
I thought it ended in osis for a teenage disease but that's not in the grd
9:09 am
MLFAN17
i gtg will be back
9:09 am
hokie carla
I know of 2 teens right now with the disease
9:09 am
hokie carla
luckily not mine
9:09 am
m9f9l
algebra is not a disease ;)
9:09 am
mkg
ty for super clue.....got the 8 and 9
9:10 am
hokie carla
some people think it is
9:10 am
hokie carla
I liked algebra
9:11 am
72 Temple Owl
What a boring grid.
9:11 am
hokie carla
definitely seems straightforward today
9:11 am
bichon
Liked algebra and geometry, hated trig
9:11 am
Nef
all math, including algebra & trig
9:12 am
hokie carla
I can't even remember trig. I liked algebra, geometry, and calculus
9:13 am
Nef
Sorry, learning to babble on iPad & I keep hitting the return key instead of the back key
9:13 am
m9f9l
usually people hate geometry more than trig.
9:13 am
hokie carla
hey, guess what - spam and mosh still not words LOL
9:15 am
Nef
I had a high school math teacher who said women couldn’t understand advanced math because we couldn’t think spatially, so my best friend & I proved him wrong. :-)
9:15 am
hokie carla
run and hide - momo is in the grid!
9:15 am
hokie carla
remember that talking Barbie who said "math is hard"? that didn't go over well either.
9:16 am
m9f9l
You're not from Montana are you Nef? I tutored a woman whose high school math teacher told her she "couldn't do math"..?!?!?
9:16 am
hokie carla
and I am way more spatial than my husband. when he loads the dishwasher I wonder about him
9:17 am
bichon
same here carla
9:18 am
bichon
My biggest challenge in Math was taking physics before calculators came
9:18 am
Nef
I’m not from MT, but my siblings live there. That was in NW MN back in the ‘60’s
9:18 am
hokie carla
I'm glad he's helping out but I end up redoing it all
9:19 am
hokie carla
holy cow, bichon, I can't imagine
9:19 am
m9f9l
well.. I better get off of here and get ready to do taxes.
9:19 am
m9f9l
Ohhh.. slide rules?
9:20 am
hokie carla
when did calculators come on the scene, early 70s?
9:20 am
bichon
I could never figure out a slide rule. I did do well in humanites and social sciences
9:20 am
bichon
I graduated college in '68
9:21 am
m9f9l
We only had super basic calculators when i took college physics. But by the time I was in heat transfer I had a calculator that could graph, and you could enter several formulas, and use multiple memory spots. That was nice.
9:21 am
Nef
Gosh, bichon, I did that; I still have my slide rule too! And I remember my hubby’s first calculator, it was nearly the size of a brick!
9:22 am
m9f9l
I fondly remember my Texas Instruments brick.LOL
9:23 am
hokie carla
my husband still has (and uses) his TI circa late 80s
9:23 am
m9f9l
nice. Ok! Off to do taxes! For real! (not mine)
9:25 am
Nef
I gave our grandson our son’s ‘90’s TI calculator. It’s a bit advanced for a 9 year old, though. ;-)
9:25 am
hokie carla
when I started college computers had been on the scene for just a few years. my bro who was 4 years older and majoring in engineering was required to get one. I was accounting and it was optional to have a computer. So luckily I did not ever have to do math without a calculator.
9:28 am
hokie carla
I keep wanting to make spittoon dagnabbit
9:30 am
Nef
And I keep trying Samoa’s & it’s not a word
9:30 am
hokie carla
but a delicious girl scout cookie
9:40 am
Nef
Boy! I have lots of 4 & 5 letter words & the 8 & 9, but this 6 letter words are few & far between, aren’t they?
9:41 am
hokie carla
yeah, I just went to the list and guessed one but the 2nd one I came to is proving troublesome
9:41 am
MLFAN17
I hate math
9:43 am
Nef
I hated typing. And Home ec.
9:44 am
hokie carla
I really jinxed myself saying it was too easy with the list. Really can't find the 6s and some 5s.
9:45 am
hokie carla
I loved gym
9:45 am
Nef
Yes, I hated gym too. We didn’t have girls sports back then,
9:46 am
bichon
sports for girls in the early 60's wasn't a big thing
9:47 am
hokie carla
I went to the same HS as my parents and I think my mom (c/o '61) had field hockey. We never had that. I played softball, volleyball, basketball, and ran track.
9:48 am
Nef
In gym, we had floor hockey and calisthenics & half court basketball. And you never ran!
9:49 am
hokie carla
we still had to wear the ugly gym uniforms in late 80s/early90s
9:50 am
bichon
My school didn't have girls sports. College, we were required to take gym classes
9:50 am
Nef
My yearbook only had cheerleaders in the sports section, there wasn’t even a girl’s golf team (& we had a nice golf course in town & females were allowed to play).
9:51 am
hokie carla
My mom graduated in '61 and I graduated in '91 and we had the same gym teacher!
9:52 am
bichon
A teen aged Jewish girl from New York definitely didn't do sports
9:52 am
hokie carla
shoot, nef, we didn't even have a boys or girls golf team until my senior year
9:53 am
hokie carla
bichon, that makes me think of the Marvelous Mrs. Maisel and I absolutely believe you about that. :D
9:54 am
bichon
Jewish girls went to college to become school teachers.
9:55 am
hokie carla
Have you heard of Mrs. Maisel?
9:55 am
bichon
when they married and had children, they always had a profession to go back to
9:55 am
Nef
Our gym teacher was quite old, but very fit. I don’t know how old she was back then, but she must have been in her early 60’s; & she taught at least another 5 years after that ( looking back at my siblings’ yearbooks, anyway.)
9:55 am
bichon
No, have to google it
9:56 am
hokie carla
It's a tv show on Amazon Prime about a twenty something Jewish woman in NYC in the 50s who becomes a stand-up comedian
9:56 am
hokie carla
It's definitely R-rated but hilarious
9:57 am
bichon
Sadly, don't have Prime [have Netflix and Hulu]
9:58 am
Nef
homie, my hometown had one of the best golf courses around that area. It had been started back in the ‘20’s or 30’s (whenever golf was the big rage); it’s still the best one in that region.
9:59 am
Nef
hokie, Not homie,
9:59 am
hokie carla
my school didn't add soccer until the 2000s, small town living
10:00 am
hokie carla
LOL, I was thinking it was nice you consider me your homie
10:10 am
hokie carla
well, now I've hit a wall with the list. bbl for last 15!
10:12 am
bichon
last word to 6/21, second one, pls
10:15 am
Nef
Sorry,bichon, I don’t have it & haven’t listed yet.
10:19 am
hokie carla
compound word: male cat + raunchy word for female anatomy
10:19 am
hokie carla
and now I'm out again!
10:21 am
Nef
Thanks, hokie!
10:24 am
bichon
ty carla, fw
10:48 am
periwinkle
the K and W are missing in the grid altho I do see them under the grid
10:52 am
periwinkle
hi all stuck wth 51 left
10:54 am
periwinkle
I tried samosa
12:32 pm
cybernan
hi everyone :)
12:41 pm
cybernan
try it again peri
12:47 pm
cybernan
2nd to 6/21 please?
12:48 pm
cybernan
nm - found it
12:50 pm
cybernan
an 6/21 please?
12:50 pm
cybernan
found that one too!
1:27 pm
sandr
spam!!!! why not, discuss
2:03 pm
Nef
Maybe because the dang Enable dictionary thinks it’s a brand name?
3:00 pm
ch1212
an6/21 please clue?
3:03 pm
rururocks
an6 a french friend you don't know :D
3:05 pm
ch1212
oh for.... smacks my head with a trout. Thanks, Ruru!
3:50 pm
MollyL
There is way too much self abuse with fish around here.
: D
3:57 pm
rururocks
usually people flounder about in the chat
3:57 pm
rururocks
at least those that have Sole
4:47 pm
MollyL
Some have to scale back on their sarcasm so as not to cause dismay
5:36 pm
A*n*i*t*a
too many people have opinions, i dont usually use shat because of the abuse sadly
5:36 pm
A*n*i*t*a
just keep quiet
5:38 pm
A*n*i*t*a
oops sorry wrong box
5:52 pm
rururocks
abuse? HUH? when?
6:27 pm
Uneaixoise
First to6/21 please
7:03 pm
MollyL
*Hands Une a BLT
7:03 pm
dan2bit
evening all?
7:04 pm
dan2bit
hah that 2nd wasn't meant to be a question
7:04 pm
MollyL
sh + old time radio show ____ and Andy
7:06 pm
dan2bit
thank you Molly!
7:07 pm
dan2bit
that's firewords!
8:04 pm
rbud
whatever has become of Minveryork? was just thinking about the stories she writes using the words in the grid.
8:08 pm
Bugsaw
she comes by on an irregular basis now, rbud. She moved and has a much longer commute to work, I think, but I could be wrong.
8:19 pm
rbud
ah, thanks for the info. running back and forth to the kitchen, working on supper.
8:51 pm
rbud
well, that's me done, see y'all later! :)
8:51 pm
rbud
unless someone would like some help?