12:00 am
periwinkle
rats I was not even close
12:01 am
justafreep
Who left chocolate? I need some
12:03 am
cybernan
2x this would have been nice - hi everyone :)
12:03 am
periwinkle
hi nan
12:04 am
penquis
hi ori....peri...justa....
12:04 am
justafreep
howdy
12:04 am
periwinkle
hi pen
12:07 am
saanichcat
good evening all!
12:07 am
penquis
hi saani
12:08 am
origami
good evening, saanich!
12:08 am
cybernan
hi saanich
12:11 am
mkg
i keep looking for tomato......ugh
12:12 am
periwinkle
me too
12:14 am
mkg
still missing all the o words.......ugh.
12:15 am
penquis
od 4 ... ;o)
12:15 am
mkg
this grid drives me crazy. sometimes it takes ooph and sometimes it doesnt.
12:16 am
penquis
tales oomph or oops...
12:16 am
penquis
off to the pb....
12:16 am
origami
Hope there's something good to drink in there :D
12:16 am
justafreep
It's nice in here, pen.
12:16 am
penquis
amen to that....
12:17 am
cybernan
don't have anything for the o in the first col. but have the rest
12:17 am
periwinkle
same here nan
12:17 am
saanichcat
to go with the to 7/8s! Finally got it thanks ori
12:17 am
mkg
yes just missing the o words for first column o.
12:18 am
cybernan
wd saanach - have given up on the to's
12:18 am
saanichcat
the PB sounds like fun tonight, can I come in too?
12:18 am
periwinkle
not seeing the to7/8
12:18 am
origami
you're welcome :D
12:18 am
origami
Of course, saanich. We'll save you a bar stool :D
12:18 am
licketySplitAUS
Clues are up
12:19 am
justafreep
I can get your drink ready, saanich. Just lemme know....
12:19 am
saanichcat
and a double please
12:19 am
periwinkle
thanks lickety
12:19 am
justafreep
Thanks, Lickety
12:19 am
penquis
just found that ot 6/7...
12:19 am
periwinkle
mexican food nan, just found the to7/8
12:19 am
saanichcat
PB has lots of them
12:19 am
cybernan
wouldn't know then - don't eat the stuff
12:19 am
justafreep
the ot is not common
12:20 am
penquis
it’s a musical term, I think....
12:20 am
justafreep
poetry, I believe
12:20 am
justafreep
Maybe both?
12:20 am
cybernan
aha - found -- just started trying stuff that sounded spanish
12:21 am
dizgrannie
*HAPPY FATHER'S DAY* from Down Under
12:21 am
origami
No nachos in the PB for nan
12:21 am
penquis
i know it’s music related.....don’t know anything about poetry....
12:21 am
saanichcat
thanks justa, glass of white wine, cheers!
12:22 am
justafreep
On it. If you don't make it in... I'll take care of it for you
12:23 am
cybernan
a direction to play the music an octave higher
12:24 am
periwinkle
24 left,night all
12:24 am
saanichcat
bye for now peri
12:24 am
origami
good night, peri
12:25 am
justafreep
Huh. I know it (well, okay. Fine. Encountered it) from Italian poetry
12:27 am
penquis
well i am heading out....back in the morning to find my last 15....
12:27 am
penquis
goodnight all....
12:27 am
justafreep
night, pen
12:27 am
origami
goodnight pen
12:28 am
saanichcat
night penq
12:31 am
dizgrannie
can't recall seeing va 5 before
12:32 am
cybernan
me neither, but now that you mention it :)
12:33 am
justafreep
if ingot can be a verb then it can be an adjective, I guess
12:35 am
cybernan
grats freep -- off to bed here with 18 for tomorrow
12:38 am
justafreep
See y'all tomorrow night....
12:38 am
saanichcat
see you tomorrow nan
12:38 am
saanichcat
night justa
3:20 am
Alleyn58
Is the to7/8 obvious?
3:29 am
mattygroves
Phantom: tomato
3:30 am
mattygroves
SORRY
3:31 am
mattygroves
I have 60 words, yet nothing bigger than a five....
3:33 am
mattygroves
Finally broke that duck ;)
3:47 am
mattygroves
All done. Have a good day, all.
6:51 am
hokie carla
missed matty but found her in the grid
6:52 am
BzznBea
Hey, Carla. How are you?
6:53 am
hokie carla
hey bea, I'm good - how are you?
6:53 am
BzznBea
I'm loving this cool weather!
6:54 am
hokie carla
was surprised when I took the dog out. my watch says it's 58
6:55 am
MollyL
Isn't it funny? We used to look at thermometers for temperature. Now we look at phones and watches.
6:56 am
hokie carla
yeah, no idea if it's actually 58 at my house as my watch pulls from a weather app and I'm not sure where they are measuring
6:56 am
hokie carla
we can also ask alexa these days ;)
6:57 am
MollyL
It's 57 here and it feels wonderful.
6:57 am
MollyL
Oh yes, I forgot about Alexa. We don't use her much.
6:57 am
hokie carla
we don't either.
6:58 am
hokie carla
she's in the kitchen so sometimes I ask her for conversions
6:58 am
MollyL
You can ask that thing on your phone that talks to you too.
6:58 am
hokie carla
yep, I really never ask siri things
6:58 am
BzznBea
I am always asking siri things.
6:59 am
hokie carla
I want siri to just tell me things but he (I have mine set to be english male) just says "I found this on the web"
7:01 am
MollyL
I have to Hey Google, I don't have an iPhone
7:01 am
hokie carla
I see today's a's are no better than the rest of the week (minus yesterday) or I need coffee.
7:02 am
BzznBea
Good short A's today.
7:02 am
hokie carla
well I have 2
7:03 am
hokie carla
and I keep wanting atom
7:04 am
BzznBea
It's there, just not in the corect order. =)
7:04 am
hokie carla
ooh, just finished them! not as hard as I thought
7:04 am
MollyL
We can have atmo, short for atmosphere. Enable won't take it though.
7:05 am
hokie carla
yeah, as a firefly fan, I have tried that before
7:05 am
hokie carla
and I said I wasn't trying spam today but then I accidentally did
7:06 am
MollyL
How is your Mom doing, Carla?
7:09 am
hokie carla
she's doing pretty good. I don't know if I mentioned her car wouldn't start the day of the burial, but she had that towed away on Fri. before I left. not sure when it'll be fixed but she really doesn't need to be driving or going out in public anyway.
7:09 am
hokie carla
I don't like it looking like no one's home though.
7:10 am
hokie carla
her sister offered to take her anywhere
7:11 am
hokie carla
she was basically trapped at home months before covid so I'm sure she wants to go places, but there's not anywhere to go.
7:12 am
hokie carla
and her osteoporosis & arthritis in her back is causing a lot of pain there and in her hips. but mentally I think she's doing good.
7:14 am
BzznBea
I saw this today: Thirty days hath September, April, June and November. All the rest have thirty one, excepting February alone. And 2020 which has 5364.
7:14 am
hokie carla
so true
7:17 am
hokie carla
well I've made it to 22 left
7:18 am
hokie carla
can I have some stats for the 1st col o? p&ty
7:18 am
BzznBea
I have 0 left...
7:19 am
hokie carla
of course ;) well done
7:21 am
hokie carla
the 7/8 was easy once I knew what it started with
7:24 am
hokie carla
well, I know what my o stats are but don't know the words. will keep trying things
7:24 am
BzznBea
And music
7:25 am
hokie carla
I knew all that from the chat but it wasn't helping, but now I went in the right direction and found them. thanks
7:28 am
hokie carla
now down to 15, all in 4 tiles
7:31 am
welki
'morning, babblers
7:32 am
hokie carla
hi welki
7:32 am
BzznBea
Hello, welki.
7:34 am
hokie carla
9 left, all S & M (hopefully ru isn't awake yet)
7:34 am
welki
a neighbor gave me a couple of bags of the most beautiful, uniform beets - other than simply roasting (boiling/steaming) and shredding raw (and making chips) - any recipes? not going to pickle them
7:34 am
welki
(please and thank you)
7:35 am
welki
suppose i could make borscht
7:35 am
hokie carla
hmm, I used beets for the first time ever in the last year when they came in one of those meal kits. I roasted them as directed (and they were delicious), so I am no help, sorry.
7:36 am
BzznBea
I always eat mine the way you have listed. I'm no help either.
7:37 am
welki
one of my daughters suggested with balsamic and goat cheese, but all i have is white vinegar
7:37 am
Deeha
you can use cooked beets in a cake like carrot cake
7:38 am
hokie carla
ooh, I love me some goat cheese. that sounds yummy.
7:39 am
welki
i'd have to make up a name for the cake, deeha - husband would balk! (but boyhowdy, i made a cake yesterday that was a hit - called do nothing texas tornado cake - a TON of sugar, so only the tiniest piece for me)
7:39 am
hokie carla
purple cake ;)
7:41 am
Deeha
dont you have red velvet cakes? tell him it is one of those!
7:42 am
welki
yes, we have them here - could try that :)
7:43 am
MollyL
That Texas Tornado Cake looks good, but very sweet
7:43 am
hokie carla
IMO a cake should be very sweet
7:44 am
hokie carla
hmm, 5 S and 3 M...
7:47 am
hokie carla
found 2 m's!
7:48 am
BzznBea
Do you have ma5/16?
7:48 am
hokie carla
I have one that is a pl
7:49 am
BzznBea
The other is an old time word
7:49 am
hokie carla
ok, will look for another
7:49 am
hokie carla
got it, thx. now just 5 S left - 2 4's and 3 5's
7:49 am
BzznBea
So is sa5.14
7:50 am
hokie carla
of course, thx
7:50 am
hokie carla
found a 4, now 3 left
7:54 am
hokie carla
1 S5 left
7:55 am
hokie carla
I reckon so
7:55 am
hokie carla
wow, first try I monkeyed it. thx, bea!
7:56 am
BzznBea
I'm off to dig up a garden bed. See you all tomorrow.
7:57 am
hokie carla
I need to do some weeding while it's not blazing hot
7:58 am
welki
and hokie - off to cook some beets
8:09 am
periwinkle
hi all. I do not have either ma5/16 or the sp5/14 help please
8:09 am
periwinkle
I hate borscht
8:10 am
periwinkle
and pea soup too,that is all
8:10 am
dan2bit
sp5 - garden shovel with a different last vowel
8:11 am
periwinkle
thanks dan
8:11 am
dan2bit
yw! ma5 thou live a long and happy life
8:11 am
periwinkle
thanks again dan. how is Miss 2 bit doing these days?
8:12 am
dan2bit
she is good! starting FIFTH grade (virtual) on Tuesday
8:12 am
periwinkle
wow time does fly doesn't it?
8:13 am
periwinkle
found the other ma5/16
8:14 am
periwinkle
18 left and stuck
8:18 am
HarryHood
top row grayed on my first pass - that's unusual
8:27 am
HarryHood
fiirst column O giving me trouble. Is it obvious?
8:31 am
DS927
No Harry. Rhymes with the capital of Canada
8:32 am
LeslieAnn
like how a vampire would say it lol
8:32 am
HarryHood
in yiddidsh
8:32 am
DS927
Good one LeslieAnn!
8:33 am
HarryHood
nbt and 18 to go.
8:33 am
HarryHood
gotta go ferry the kids to horses. have fun all!
9:07 am
mkg
and that is all i have to say!
9:13 am
HarryHood
spivy is too a word - from hello muddah hello fadduh
9:13 am
HarryHood
joe spivy developed poison ivy
9:16 am
HarryHood
wow! just found the 7/8 on a whim!
9:18 am
Jeanius421
Care to share a clue Harry?
9:18 am
HarryHood
to7/8 - a mexican dish with a different ending vowel, and pl
9:19 am
Jeanius421
wow, got it thanks
9:19 am
HarryHood
I am stuck at 14.
9:20 am
HarryHood
thats worse than spivy
9:20 am
Jeanius421
Pretty sure I can sing that whole song
9:21 am
HarryHood
did you ever hear Harvey and Sheila
9:22 am
HarryHood
https://tinyurl.com/y6rfc4qm
9:24 am
HarryHood
10 to go!
9:35 am
Jeanius421
Harvey and Sheila, not that I recall
9:36 am
HarryHood
5 to go!
9:45 am
HarryHood
no way I'm getting these - listing the last 3.
9:46 am
HarryHood
done! have fun!
10:18 am
cybernan
good morning everyone
10:27 am
hurshy
morning nan
10:28 am
cybernan
hi hurshy
10:30 am
hurshy
pretty fast grid, just need 2 more S and 1 M
10:31 am
hurshy
got the M! it was so fishy!!
10:31 am
hurshy
got one S!
10:32 am
cybernan
missing an m 4 here
10:32 am
hurshy
well idk if you are missing the superlative word but that is what i had missed
10:33 am
cybernan
no - a nonrealistic plural
10:34 am
cybernan
done here -- you too?
10:34 am
hurshy
no, still have this one last S5 to find
10:35 am
cybernan
only one abnormal one - maybe two
10:35 am
cybernan
do you want help?
10:36 am
hurshy
have an sp5/14
10:36 am
cybernan
sp 5/16
10:36 am
hurshy
have the funny takeoff and the kind of bacterial infection
10:37 am
hurshy
that's besides the sp5/16 that is a plural, i assume, nan?
10:37 am
cybernan
ok then sa 5/16 - same archaic english as the ma 5
10:38 am
hurshy
ahhh thanks
10:39 am
cybernan
hagd everyone - stay safe :)
11:33 am
wvteach
stats for left column O pls
11:37 am
java2
ot 6/27 and pl
12:36 pm
SuzeeQ24
sp5,14 clue plz
1:14 pm
mamabook3
ok... keep typing a sp4 word... doesn't say it's not a word but that it's not in the grid... but it is~ So strange!
1:16 pm
jan
Same experience...do you suppose Hormel is to blame?
1:16 pm
mamabook3
could be... or we could chalk it up to COVID-19 -- seems to be screwing everything else up... lol
1:17 pm
8201girl
Just heard from Dr. God...spam will finally be added to the dictionary.
1:18 pm
periwinkle
good to know. I tried it today
1:18 pm
zoozzoom
About time.
1:19 pm
jan
While we're onto words that need to be added, how about oaky? Describing the kind of chardonnay I tend to avoid.
1:19 pm
zoozzoom
Yes and oaty.
1:20 pm
jan
Indeed...now that we're all baking more.
1:21 pm
jan
And mosh, describing punk rocker pits, though maybe that is archaic by now.
1:22 pm
zoozzoom
Not heard that word for a while now haha. Not my scene must admit!
1:22 pm
jan
Nor mine...but it's in the puzzles a lot.
1:24 pm
rururocks
*imagines Jan in Spiky Green hair and a nose piercing*
1:24 pm
zoozzoom
It is funny how the word modem is okay yet internet is not.
1:25 pm
jan
Nor tech...though it comes in both high and low varieties.
1:26 pm
jan
A friend of mine is president of the American Dictionary Society--I should ask him sometime about how words get in and why others do not.
1:30 pm
jan
Ethnic foods seems to be particularly random in Enable; some in, others not.
1:30 pm
jan
Whoops, grammar fail...
1:35 pm
MollyL
Wow, Dr. God has the ability to add words to the Enable word list? Good for him.
1:35 pm
jan
I think years ago he entered 'steno' in.
1:37 pm
jan
Speaking of words that may be archaic these days...
1:38 pm
MollyL
I wonder why spam will be added and not all the other words people wonder about.
1:38 pm
Wendrie
but spam predates its current usage
1:39 pm
jan
Isn't that earlier spam a trademarker proper noun? My daughter went to the Spam Museum on her way out to college. Sent us a gel candle in a spam tin!
1:41 pm
Wendrie
yes - but it then became a generic term in the UK, in part at least due to Monty Python in the 1970s
1:41 pm
jan
Yup, "spam, spam, sausage and spam hasn't got *much* spam in it..."
1:43 pm
jan
I have no idea who actually controls Enable. But those who download Enable can add and delete words from the 'official' list if they choose to.
1:46 pm
MollyL
It's interesting to know that Dr. God has control over what words are allowed and what words are not.
1:48 pm
MollyL
I will pass that along the next time the chat turns to words that are not allowed.
1:48 pm
jan
Anybody who downloads Enable can adapt it as they like. Some word games remove the "naughty" words, some remove non-words like pfft.
1:49 pm
jan
And of course, you can also add words. Enable is pretty dated, so a lot of modern words in common use aren't there.
1:49 pm
MollyL
Oh wow, all the people who complain about the offensive words will be interested to know that.
1:50 pm
jan
Well, policing all the offensive words might be a challenge. Seems like ethnic slurs and sexist slurs are an infinitely renewable resource...
1:53 pm
MollyL
Yeah, but if he is going to add spam, people who have complained about the offensive words might wonder why they can't be removed.
1:58 pm
jan
That's up to Dr. God. I guess that's why is isn't Dr. Elected Official.
1:59 pm
gingin
well, enable doesn't recognise 'minge', and yet it does for synonyms of same.
1:59 pm
jan
By the way, the current version of Enable is Enable2k, which dates to about the turn of the century. So it isn't surprising that a lot of contemporary terms aren't in it.
2:01 pm
jan
Minge is a new one for me, I guess I don;'t get out enough...
2:01 pm
Kaplan the Magne
"people" don't complain about the offensive words per se, "people" complain about the gamers who think some of those words are not racial or ethnic epithets. Especially words that have no other meaning.
2:05 pm
Kaplan the Magne
These are not simply "naughty" words, they are offensive slurs. I have already been in conversation about this, so I don't need to go back over it, but there is actually a chance for educating each other bout why some words are offensive to various groups.
2:06 pm
gingin
minge has been around for a long time. I recall my Gran being annoyed when she overheard me calling my cousin a minging little tart.
2:06 pm
gingin
that was in the 70s.
2:06 pm
Kaplan the Magne
I am not familiar with that word.
2:08 pm
gingin
Kaplan, I completely concur. There is a substantial list of racially offensive words allowed in usage here.
2:10 pm
Kaplan the Magne
The merely scatological --olde English-is another thing entirely.
2:13 pm
Kaplan the Magne
A common reaction is to turn it around so that the offended- or hurt- member of the group is "too sensitive," "taking it the wrong way" or demanding censorship and political correctness. In this era- or any er when groups of people are under attack, the last thing that should be said is "you're too sensitive."
2:15 pm
Kaplan the Magne
As Groucho said, as he put is portfolio on the lawyer's bench, "I rest my case"
2:18 pm
Kaplan the Magne
What is "minge" or do I have to look it up?
2:24 pm
Kaplan the Magne
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh.
2:28 pm
harpjane
stats for the left column O please?
2:30 pm
harpjane
my grid says "spam does not exist in the puzzle" Is that prophetic, I wonder?
2:31 pm
Kaplan the Magne
that's just a mistake. That's just gaslighting.
2:32 pm
Kaplan the Magne
I'm looking at spam right now.
2:40 pm
MollyL
Oh Kaplan, I'm glad you are here. Maybe if Dr. God is willing to add spam, he will remove the word you don't care for, and other words that people find offensive.
2:41 pm
Kaplan the Magne
I'm also reading the chat, and it says that Dr God (such hubris) CAN choose to remove racial slurs.
2:46 pm
Kaplan the Magne
It's more than a word I don't care for, it's a historically ugly concept that has no other meaning than an anti-Semitic slur. I did email Dr God about it, and the n-word, and now I'm thinking the c4 word...Dr God of course did not respond.
2:52 pm
MollyL
Wow, really? No response? And yet he told that player who posted earlier that spam would be added. Wow.
2:53 pm
Kaplan the Magne
To the Irish, the word Paddy as in Paddy Wagon is a slur, but there are also rice paddies, so another meaning can be argued. There are a couple of permitted anti-Italian slurs. A chink may be a chink in the painted wall, spic MAY have another meaning, but probably not (spic n' span) . Coon could be a raccoon, but the n-word and jew as a verb are unambiguous.
2:55 pm
Kaplan the Magne
Some of the female genitalia words may be used in Victorian pornography, but I think too many women have experienced denigration, so I usually cringe at the c word, and would be happy to see it relegated to the place where spam is currently.
2:56 pm
Kaplan the Magne
Pricks and dicks have other meanings.
2:58 pm
Kaplan the Magne
trump is a word with a meaning so it trumps Trump.
2:59 pm
harpjane
In local news, there is a lake in Montana called Coon Lake and the locals are petitioning to change the name. It was NOT named after raccoons.
3:02 pm
Kaplan the Magne
I believe that. And all the bridges that are named after slaveholders- like where John Lewis walked--need to be renamed. They are not holy sites.
3:02 pm
MollyL
i find it interesting that the c word bothers some women so much, and yet the pu5 word doesn't seem to.
3:03 pm
Kaplan the Magne
Cats.
3:04 pm
harpjane
Well, in defense of Montanans, in the sixties it was called N***** Lake and they changed it to Coon Lake.
3:04 pm
Kaplan the Magne
C4 is meant to be degrading and has no other meaning. I would have to go to the OED to find out its history. The history of jewing down I'm familiar with.
3:04 pm
MollyL
Yeah, but in certain context, it means the same thing. Why one word and not the other? My guess is that it is a word used in big fights between men and women. But maybe not.
3:05 pm
Kaplan the Magne
Harpjane, is that true? That's wild!
3:06 pm
Kaplan the Magne
They changed it from n to c thinking ...what WERE they thinking
3:07 pm
harpjane
So, in a sense, the Montana people thought they were doing the right thing, for the sixties.
3:07 pm
harpjane
I know, Kalplan. It's horrifying to think of it now.
3:07 pm
Kaplan the Magne
In the South there was something called the Jew Store. But the Jewish shipowners were not offended by it- it was usually a kind of general store owned by Jewish merchants.
3:08 pm
MollyL
Pu5 is used in a degrading way. Men who are "wimpy" are referred to as pu7. Why are women not offended that their genital parts are used as a term to represent weak?
3:09 pm
Kaplan the Magne
People relied on the Jew Store. In my city in Massachusetts there was a Jew hospital, because Jewish Doctors were not allowed to practice at Somerville Hospital in the earlier 20th century. It was located right behind the one synagogue. It is no longer there.
3:10 pm
Kaplan the Magne
Usually the Jew Store was a dry goods store.
3:15 pm
Kaplan the Magne
The p word keeps evolving. POTUS used it and suddenly there were "Karens" with t-shirts saying "Trump can grab MY p5 anytime.
3:16 pm
Kaplan the Magne
"Karen" is not a term for middle aged white women with blonde hair who want to speak to the manager right now.
3:20 pm
Kaplan the Magne
There are Beckys who are younger women of privilege and entitlement. I did a body scan to see if I felt any antiSemitism in the use of that name, then thought no- Aunt Becky was Lori Laughlin who is going to jail for the college admission bribery
3:20 pm
Kaplan the Magne
These are just current trends.
3:21 pm
Book Doctor Gwen
hi all, right two columns done, woot
3:21 pm
Book Doctor Gwen
ooh, we talking about slang? very yummy
3:21 pm
Kaplan the Magne
I'm just missing a v. And I don't have any longer words there.
3:22 pm
Kaplan the Magne
We're talking about trendy epithets and appalling epithets
3:22 pm
Book Doctor Gwen
there's a va5/20, builds off another v
3:24 pm
Book Doctor Gwen
(some) white women who learn that black people have been calling them Karens for *years* are now offended by it and think they can stop it by complaining about it, thus proving that they are Karens LOL
3:30 pm
jan
Dr. God seems to be only sporadically caring for this site. Maybe if it required a fee to join he'd pay more attention. I know that Iron Sudoku's chat became a cesspool of extreme political argument before finally he stepped in and banned that kind of chat. But it went on for months before he took action.
3:30 pm
wvteach
**finito** last word - a frontiersman's name, finished without a list
3:30 pm
Book Doctor Gwen
wtg teach !!!!!!!!
3:31 pm
jan
Killed him a b'ar when he was only three...
3:31 pm
Book Doctor Gwen
one could report offenders to Dr. God but there's no reasons for him to do anything about it, necessarily, I mean
3:33 pm
jan
The issue here is rather different; it isn't players misbehaving but the nature of words that count for points in the game. I won't type them myself--since I hardly ever finish anyway, I prefer to ignore them. But I do understand that others, quite reasonably, feel differently. And I could not recommend that kids play this game, unfortunately.
3:34 pm
Book Doctor Gwen
you mean all the offiensive words allowed? there's no point, really, arguing about that, at least in my experience, because no one is going to change it
3:35 pm
MollyL
That is interesting Jan. People not only recommend that kids play this game, they get their grand kids into it.
3:36 pm
jan
Well, I wouldn't myself. Maybe if you don't play a lot, you don't see those words crop up. But I would hate to have to explain some of them to, say, my eight year old granddaughter.
3:36 pm
Book Doctor Gwen
there's another site where I play a versin of Boggle and the word list bizarrely accepts dozens of plurals for which they don't accept the singular -- as if someone copied a dictionary then willy nilly deleted some words, leaving their plurals in
3:37 pm
MollyL
Personally, I don't find words accepted in a word game offensive. To me, words are only offensive when they are used towards someone else.
3:39 pm
Book Doctor Gwen
offensive (and derogatory, there's a difference)words are often "rehabilitated" and become positive again -- it's evolution
3:40 pm
Book Doctor Gwen
2/3 done, hair tearing beginning
3:42 pm
jan
Those are the hard cases, Gwen, where often they are acceptable in in-group use but not when out-group speakers use them. Usually that's because the 'reclaimed' slur is still being used offensively by others.
3:43 pm
Book Doctor Gwen
a good example is "queer" which has lots of meanings, one of which used to be derogatory
3:43 pm
jan
Unfortunately, in some mouths it still is derogatory. There
3:44 pm
jan
Whoops--too quick on the send...
3:45 pm
Book Doctor Gwen
certainly, but for the most part, it is not offensive
3:45 pm
mkg
spam is not a word in this grid. ugh
3:46 pm
Book Doctor Gwen
ottoman (phantom)
3:47 pm
jan
That's why I probably wouldn't nuke it if I were Dr. God, since most of its uses have nothing to do with sexual orientation. On the other hand, there are plenty of words that almost always offensive. If I were Dr. God, those would go.
3:47 pm
Book Doctor Gwen
spam is still slang, at least according to some dictionaries
3:48 pm
jan
And the four letter words and derivations that George Carlin famously said you can't say on TV? Those would go, too. But I'm not Dr. God, so they're in. (At least for now...)
3:48 pm
MollyL
Which goes back to my original point. Why would Dr. God agree to add spam and not agree to get rid of words deemed "offensive"?
3:49 pm
jan
Who can say? Laziness? Lack of interest in the issue? Too hard to make judgments? Dunno...
3:49 pm
Book Doctor Gwen
yes, but our language changes so fast, he would be continuously having to open up the game, add words, take words out, and each time he would do this, he would piss someone off, so it's not worth it (is my guess)
3:51 pm
jan
Language changes but not all that fast. Most new usages vanish quickly. Adding new words every year or so would keep Enable current--the last iteration of Enable is 20 years old, and for all I know, Dr. God may be using the original, much older version.
3:54 pm
jan
For example, currently Enable doesn't take 'tech' as a word, but clearly "high tech" "low tech" "tech workers" etc. are used constantly in speech and writing. He added 'steno' once, a long while ago, for reasons he didn't share in chat, so he knows it can be done.
3:56 pm
jan
Archaic words, other than offensive ones, don't need to be removed. So 'saith' can stay, even though nobody uses it anymore.
3:57 pm
jan
Okay...no more on this from me. I am procrastinating, avoiding writing a proposed abstract for a linguistics conference, ironically enough!
3:57 pm
Book Doctor Gwen
if i had time i could probably come up with 50 new words that have become more or less commonn in the past 10 years (just as an example: influencer)
4:03 pm
Book Doctor Gwen
fireworks!
4:03 pm
MollyL
I think the word that was added was "stent"
4:04 pm
Book Doctor Gwen
wishing you luck with the linguistics conference, jan !! bye all
4:16 pm
jan
Molly, you are right! I mis-remembered that!!
4:16 pm
jan
Getting an abstract accepted for an academic conference is like winning a pie eating contest in which the prize is more pie.
4:35 pm
Kaplan the Magne
Getting back to it...I don't find something in a grid as offensive as people who think it is a valid word to use conversationally
4:36 pm
Kaplan the Magne
Yes, good luck Jan. I am terrified about presenting in conferences, so I only do it in small groups, and not annually
4:37 pm
Kaplan the Magne
Yes, more pie.
4:39 pm
Kaplan the Magne
are you familiar with mondegreens? Lady Mondegreen?
4:46 pm
Kaplan the Magne
A mondegreen /ˈmÉ’ndɪɡriËn/ is a mishearing or misinterpretation of a phrase in a way that gives it a new meaning. Mondegreens are most often created by a person listening to a poem or a song; the listener, being unable to clearly hear a lyric, substitutes words that sound similar and make some kind of sense.[1][2] American writer Sylvia Wright coined the term in 1954, writing that as a girl, when her mother read to her from Percy's Reliques, she had misheard the lyric "layd him on the green" in the fourth line of the Scottish ballad "The Bonny Earl of Murray" as "Lady Mondegreen".[3]
"Mondegreen" was included in the 2000 edition of the Random House Webster's College Dictionary, and in the Oxford English Dictionary in 2002. Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary added the word in 2008.[4][5]
5:30 pm
toadandtoadette
help with the ot(s) please
5:32 pm
JaxH66
Musical term I think. Starts like an interval of 8 notes
5:33 pm
JaxH66
Forget the starts like. No c!
5:43 pm
MollyL
Excuse me while I kiss this guy
5:44 pm
MollyL
A short version of misheard lines. Jimi Hendrix, "excuse me while I kiss the sky".
5:52 pm
akazev
Blinded by the light..swept up like a douche is my favorite mondegreen
6:52 pm
rururocks
i think you mean revved up like a Deuce
6:53 pm
rururocks
oh.. i get it...
6:54 pm
rururocks
swept up like a douche would describe the Rebulican Senate though
6:55 pm
rururocks
that's republican senate..
7:31 pm
Christa
speaking of the word douche .. the other day I saw a cup with "Toodaloo douchecanoe" lolol
8:57 pm
Marc Freeman
How is it that 'spam' is not a word?
9:00 pm
TedinDurham
tells me it's not in the puzzle tho clearly it is
9:03 pm
Gillie
Weird - I think it used to say it wasn't in the dictionary.
9:03 pm
Marc Freeman
Wierd
11:40 pm
harpjane
what are the stats for the left column O please?
11:46 pm
KnightTime
ot 6/27 and 7/40