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Saturday, August 17, 2024

ENTIRE CHAT LOG

12:05 am
justafreep

te8
12:05 am
justafreep

te7 x 2
12:05 am
justafreep

and happy flip
12:05 am
Gillie

sh7
12:06 am
justafreep

ve7
12:14 am
Gillie

de7
12:17 am
licketySplitAUS

Clues are up
12:17 am
justafreep

thanks, lickety!
12:24 am
sprite

morning babblers. THanks Lickety
12:32 am
grannyrose

cooee and g'day from me. * hugs * sprite.
12:32 am
sprite

*hugs ro4* Hello darling, how are you?
12:33 am
grannyrose

taking it very easy today. didn't overdo it yesterday i promise. just slowly going downhill. but hey! 8 days to go. i think i'm doing rather well.
12:34 am
sprite

as long as you took good care of yourself yesterday, you have no problem with me. Yes, counting down, darling. You ARE doing great this time around.
12:35 am
grannyrose

and you dear friend? how are you traveling? any more thunder storms coming?
12:36 am
sprite

the weather is more or less stable, as far as thunderstorms go. I am slowly coming back from the days of moving stuff. Takes some time to recover. We are very happy with the new situation though.
12:37 am
grannyrose

i have just bought tickets to Sleeping Beauty, the ballet. Taking young Claudia with me. not until next January though. but i have got in early and have some very good seats.
12:37 am
sprite

oh that is awesome! In itself, and even more so getting to share it with Claudia and seeing it through her eyes as well.
12:37 am
grannyrose

yes. those pics you sent look wonderful. such a lovely area for you to work/play in.
12:38 am
sprite

we are making the kitchen our own now too, slowly but surely. So lovely to have everything at hand, on the same floor.
12:39 am
grannyrose

lol... she wasn't to sure at first until i explained it WASN'T a pantomime, but live ballet. the music by tchaikovsky is glorious.
12:39 am
sprite

she will love it. It is such an experience. Tchaikovsky is always a treat and combined with ballet and a story that she knows, it will be magic.
12:41 am
grannyrose

would you believe she is nearly 16? i can't believe it. she now does lyrical dance. my son said he had tears in his eyes as he watched her performing. she is so graceful. lol... at least she got one good gene from her grandmother.
12:41 am
sprite

that girl has no business being 16 already!
12:41 am
grannyrose

how are Caya and Juno settling in?
12:43 am
grannyrose

waaahh, i remember being 16. it's so scary when your grand-daughter gets to an age which you remember.
12:43 am
sprite

between the two of them, all is amazing. Slight hiccup though with Juno's sister not doing well atm. She is very depressed, has been for a long time but hid it too well. So she has been staying with Caya and Juno a lot, even though she had moved out.
12:44 am
grannyrose

* sigh * that's hard especially when they have their own issues to sift through. how old is the sister?
12:44 am
sprite

I just ordered yarn for a blanket for her. Caya told me she was sitting on the couch with one of my blankets in her lap, holding on to it for dear life. Caya is lending her hers. But I think she needs her own :)
12:44 am
sprite

she is very young still. Just 19.
12:44 am
grannyrose

what a lovely thing to do for her sprite.
12:45 am
sprite

yeah it is hard, for herself and also for Caya and Juno, who were just for the very first time in their relationship living with just the two of them.
12:45 am
grannyrose

* giggle * 19.... remember when we thought how sophisticated we were at that age.
12:45 am
sprite

will put the squirrel blanket on hold for a while, until the one for Lauryn is done.
12:45 am
sprite

omg yes. I know it ALL.
12:46 am
sprite

actually, at that age I was very depressed too and not only did I know it all, I was also certain I was more or less done with life.
12:48 am
grannyrose

that's so sad darling. i remember you telling me about your teens. but you know what? you are out on the other side now. stronger, better, and really do know everything now.
12:48 am
sprite

lol, I only know how little I know, nowadays. But yes, stronger, better and way way happier than ever before, honey. I am blessed. And so very grateful.
12:49 am
grannyrose

i was fortunate. i had got out of my mother's clutches by then, and very happy with my training and new circle of friends.
12:50 am
sprite

it was good to get away from our abusive parents, for sure.
12:53 am
grannyrose

i was just thinking. could you handle Lauryn on your own?
12:54 am
sprite

how do you mean?
12:54 am
grannyrose

well, if she were to come and visit with you instead of Caya and Juno, maybe you could give them some time to themselves.
12:56 am
grannyrose

not saying every day, but two days, maybe per week when Caya would know it was just going to be them alone.
12:56 am
sprite

I would in a heartbeat. But Lauryn really needs her big sister right now. The goal is to get her settled again in her own place, Juno is going with her this weekend. And Caya and Juno talked it through. Juno will support Lauryn through this, and Caya will support Juno. And of course, we will support Caya and Juno, and let Lauryn know that we are always here for her.
12:57 am
sprite

if she is going to stay with Caya and Juno for longer, I will certainly suggest that, hon. Good thinking.
12:58 am
grannyrose

such a weight for young shoulders to carry. i just want to grab all of them in a huge hug.
12:58 am
sprite

ikr? I so so want for Caya and Juno to be able to experience 'normal' for a bit. But it seems it is not yet to be.
1:01 am
grannyrose

have you managed to talk to Caya and Juno about the new findings on FM? for me it's such a load off my mind. i truly thought i was doing this to myself.
1:02 am
sprite

oh yes, I gave them all the info and they immediately started studying it themselves and they are gonna talk it over with their specialists. I thought I'd told you so, sorry.
1:02 am
grannyrose

with you behind them, they are sure to be okay. i love the relationship you have with Caya, and Juno of course.
1:03 am
sprite

I am so so blessed. Our immediate family, both blood and bonus, are amazing. And they all get along together splendidly too.
1:03 am
grannyrose

we need to spread the news. this break-through means they are on the way to an actual cure for this wretched disease, and it is a disease.
1:04 am
sprite

I so want to visit all those doctors who said it was 'just between our ears' and tell them: yeah, just like your rotten blindness and stubbornness.
1:05 am
grannyrose

oh, do you remember the elderly lady who used to live next door? Shirley/Lee. she had a lovely pic of Christ holding a lamb in her room. and one day it just disappeared. she was devastated.
1:06 am
sprite

omg! That is awful. I am so sorry.
1:07 am
grannyrose

well we went on line and found a rather lovely picture which Don downloaded, adjusted in brightness etc, printed it out, and we put it in a pretty frame. gave it to her yesterday. she couldn't take her eyes off it.
1:07 am
sprite

:D I love you guys.
1:09 am
grannyrose

after communion every week as she walks back to her seat/pew she stops by me and gives me a lovely hug. last week i wept as i realised that my own mother never hugged me like that.
1:10 am
grannyrose

my Dad did. as he did with all of us. but Mum...nope, not in my memory.
1:10 am
sprite

as Richard Bach so beautifully writes: The bond that links your true family is not one of blood, but of respect and joy in each other's life. Rarely do members of one family grow up under the same roof.
1:11 am
grannyrose

must check this bloke out. sounds like he talked a lot of sense.
1:12 am
sprite

you are part of my family. We may have been dealt a tough deal with the family we were born in, but we sure are blessed in getting to choose our own family and making it work in our own lives.
1:13 am
sprite

oh I highly recommend him. He writes amazing novels. Very spiritual, very wise, but also fun.
1:13 am
grannyrose

as you are part of mine. and Kiwi, and Kam, oh and puglet. all of us have that common bond. either abusive parents or lack of them.
1:14 am
sprite

His most famous book is Jonathan Livingston Seagull. But you will also enjoy "Illusions: The Adventures of a Reluctant Messiah " and One.
1:15 am
grannyrose

oh, i have that book, and the record of Neal Diamond's music written for the film.
1:16 am
sprite

yes! Such music, and such lyrics! One of my all time favorites.
1:16 am
sprite

the film is beautiful too, tbh.
1:17 am
grannyrose

thanks for the heads up. will look for him later.
1:17 am
sprite

let me know how you get on. Would love to talk about the books with you.
1:17 am
grannyrose

oh the film...i cried with joy and love watching it.
1:18 am
sprite

same
1:20 am
sprite

just sayin'... if enable thinks that reerr and reerred are not words, they never knew me.
1:22 am
grannyrose

there is a series we have been watching called The Chosen. it is financially supported by people from all walks of life. you can donate on-line which we have several times. it is the story of Christ from birth to the end and beyond. part is played by an egyptian man. they have very cleverly fleshed out all the people written about in the bible, including the romans. also the culture of the times . we are waiting for the final episodes to come out now.
1:22 am
sprite

sounds very interesting
1:22 am
dcseain

ah, classic Christian apologetics, if well executed it sounds.
1:23 am
sprite

fireflies
1:23 am
dcseain

hello sprite and rose
1:23 am
sprite

hiya seain
1:23 am
grannyrose

anyway, that was the long way of me telling you that i have bought a book written about the first series. i'm so looking forward to reading it.
1:23 am
grannyrose

WTG SPRITE !!
1:23 am
dcseain

yay sprite
1:23 am
grannyrose

hey ya dcseain.
1:24 am
grannyrose

whoa... loving the sunnies dcseain.
1:24 am
sprite

time for me to go walk Nero. *hugs* my friends. Have a blessed day and a peaceful night. Extra hug for rose!
1:24 am
dcseain

brand new prescription with green lenses and silver mirror
1:25 am
dcseain

be well, sprite
1:25 am
grannyrose

* hugs * dearest. enjoy your day.
1:25 am
sprite

beautiful man, seain ;)
1:25 am
grannyrose

oh are these the ones you were telling us about? they look wonderful.
1:26 am
dcseain

the ones I ordered last week. Maui Jim brand, style is Southern Cross, in grey with green lenses.
1:26 am
grannyrose

suit your face nicely.
1:26 am
dcseain

chosen for practicality. Nice wrap, firm on my head.
1:27 am
dcseain

thank you.
1:27 am
dcseain

my new daily wear glasses are blue, and should be in next week sometime.
1:28 am
grannyrose

wow! you'll have to take another pic for us.
1:28 am
dcseain

The style name makes me uncomfortable, knowing the history of the Southern Cross, and being from the region of Virginia where it originated.
1:29 am
dcseain

OTOH, it could be referring to the constellation.
1:29 am
grannyrose

i have splashed out and bought tickets for myself and my grand-daughter to see Sleeping Beauty, the ballet. not until January, but as a patron of the Australian Ballet, i was offered an early bird deal which i snatched up as quick as i could. lol
1:30 am
dcseain

oh, lovely!
1:30 am
dcseain

I bought tix to see Dr Glaucomflecken and his wife live here in DC in early October.
1:31 am
grannyrose

i haven't been able to go at all this year as the usual theatre is being renovated, badly needed. and the theatre the company have moved to is not very accessible for anyone using walking aids or wheelchair.
1:32 am
dcseain

yes, we have a mix of accessible and not so much in the theaters here too.
1:33 am
grannyrose

seeing as most of our performing arts theatre were built back when Methuselah was a pup, access wasn't a high priority.
1:35 am
dcseain

exactly
1:35 am
grannyrose

are you okay explaining to me the story behind The Southern Cross? i only know it as the constellation.
1:35 am
dcseain

some of our oldest have been redone to modern accessibility standards.
1:35 am
dcseain

sure
1:36 am
dcseain

the southern cross here in the US started as the Battle Flag of the Army of Northern Virginia: thirteen white stars in a blue saltire, bounded by white, on a red banner.
1:36 am
dcseain

it was coôpted in the early 20th century by racists in the SE US.
1:37 am
dcseain

there are folks that know it as the only Confederate flag, but it was never an official flag of the Confederate States of America, only the Battle Flagg of the Army of Northern Virginia.
1:37 am
dcseain

so today, racists fly it.
1:38 am
dcseain

I am aware of the constellation, as I did mention earlier.
1:38 am
dcseain

And applying Accham's Razor, the constellation feels more likely as the inspiration.
1:40 am
dcseain

but my gut reaction as the US Civil War, and racist implications to the phrase, due to the culture I grew up in.
1:41 am
grannyrose

so typically a once again simple flag(or symbol) of an army ( movement, culture) has, as you say been coopted for a more sinister thing.
1:41 am
dcseain

exactly, much as the Swastika was.
1:42 am
dcseain

the Navajo people dropped the symbol due to their service in WWII in Europe. They are American Indians in the SW US.
1:43 am
grannyrose

that makes me very cross. why can't they design their own symbol?
1:43 am
dcseain

I hear you, deeply.
1:46 am
grannyrose

over here we have had a cheese made for as long as i remember, named Coon, for the family who established the company. but now, because it is an offensive term to some people they have had to change it. same with the labelling of cow's milk as white. * rolls eyes * for goodness sake IT IS WHITE!!
1:46 am
dcseain

cow's milk is white, indeed.
1:46 am
grannyrose

it's just to extreme for me.
1:47 am
dcseain

and coon is both short for raccoon here, and an offensive word to refer to people of color.
1:47 am
grannyrose

sorry... too.....
1:48 am
grannyrose

exactly. i only ever heard it used in the context of the cheese and the animal... never used it as a racial slur in my life, and don't intend to do so.
1:48 am
dcseain

that makes sense for where you live.
1:49 am
dcseain

I grew up attending school in a period where Virginia built integrated schools with serrated facilities in them.
1:49 am
dcseain

we were taught why some of the water fountains were chilled, and others were not.
1:49 am
dcseain

and why there were two gyms, with ridiculously large locker rooms.
1:51 am
grannyrose

i don't understand why people have to be so judgemental and nasty. to me we are all one. * giggle * my mother would probably spin in her grave if she knew that part of our family ancestry is full blood indonesian, jewish gypsies, plus a whole lot of other cultures. she tried to tell us we were proper little english kids... lol...
1:53 am
grannyrose

my Dad had no time for racism at all and that is how he brought us up. we are no better or worse than anyone else on the planet, including royalty.
1:54 am
dcseain

https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.ht\nml
1:54 am
dcseain

that was shot from New Zealand
1:55 am
dcseain

that link is to the NASA Astronomy Picture of the Day.
1:55 am
grannyrose

oh my. how mind blowing.
1:55 am
dcseain

indeed!
1:59 am
grannyrose

love the arc of the launch of the rocket. incredible. now i feel very minuscule indeed. lol
2:01 am
grannyrose

have to ask you... how on earth do you survive on so little sleep?
2:01 am
dcseain

I get 7-9h most nights
2:02 am
dcseain

the universe does have a way of making us feel small
2:02 am
grannyrose

but, but, but.... isn't just after 3am there?
2:03 am
dcseain

it is. I'm 1h ahead of grid time (UTC-4)
2:03 am
dcseain

I got home about 00:30, chatted with neighbor til 01:15, brought stuff in from porch and car, fed cats, oh, should go take meds, brb
2:03 am
grannyrose

* scratches head * so you are able to sleep later into the day?
2:05 am
dcseain

I am
2:06 am
dcseain

I sleep until 10 to noon usually
2:06 am
dcseain

my mother's mother also slept like that.
2:06 am
dcseain

so did my mother through a goodly chunk of her life.
2:07 am
dcseain

though the cat wants me to sleep
2:07 am
dcseain

video has 9min to go though.
2:08 am
grannyrose

i understand now. i have to be awake and eaten by 8am for my meds.
2:09 am
dcseain

mine are taken at night, if hours late tonight.
2:09 am
grannyrose

please read that as i have to eat food before i take my meds..lol
2:09 am
dcseain

I did
2:09 am
dcseain

:)
2:10 am
dcseain

and night FRiday-Saturday I have a LONG history of up very late. We used to go to dinner after it, around 1AM
2:10 am
grannyrose

i am controlled by the frequency of my analgesia which is taken three times per day. i have to try and fit them in with enough hours in between.
2:12 am
dcseain

oh, yes, when I'm on a 3x/day drug, I do 07/15/23 or 08/16/00 like clockwork.
2:13 am
grannyrose

mate, time for me to love and leave you. hope you have a good rest this night. mayhap catch you tomorrow after flip. xox
2:14 am
dcseain

:) be well.
8:27 am
MollyL

I can't remember the last time I slept until ten or noon.
9:15 am
hurshy

g'morning
9:18 am
phaeton

morning
9:18 am
hurshy

how are you today phae?
9:19 am
hurshy

Ts Toppled!
9:21 am
phaeton

not too good...death in the family
9:23 am
hurshy

oh no, i'm sorry to hear that
9:23 am
hurshy

do you want to talk about it?
9:29 am
phaeton

thanks but it was an expected death. Just dealing with the logistics of getting to a funeral out of state.
9:30 am
hurshy

well, sympathy to you and your family, anyway
9:38 am
phaeton

Thank you hurshy.😌
9:49 am
penquis

sorry for your loss, phaeton....hello all....
9:50 am
phaeton

thank you pen
9:54 am
phaeton

fw...hagd all
9:54 am
penquis

you, too, phae...congrats...
9:55 am
phaeton

😌
10:43 am
penquis

well i am stalled at 7....taking a lunch break...bye all...
10:59 am
hurshy

i am back from lanyard and badge reel shopping online, 6 left here
11:00 am
hurshy

RVJHRD - that doesn't spell anything
11:00 am
hurshy

flip chat says i need de7
11:01 am
hurshy

french, of course. always what you expect in a game of english words, lol
11:02 am
hurshy

one of my favorite bertie wooster quotes... "it's the absolute de7 cri, you see. as cris go, this is about as de7 as you can get."
11:03 am
hurshy

still missing one other 7 though
11:04 am
hurshy

got my top R! that was a 5.
11:05 am
hurshy

oh and there are TWO ve7, and one of them is just like that de7.
11:05 am
hurshy

lucky guess there
11:06 am
hurshy

got my H!
11:08 am
hurshy

and my other R!
11:08 am
hurshy

that leaves a J5
11:16 am
hurshy

oh
11:16 am
hurshy

weird alt sp of a holy war
11:24 am
Nef

Hello. Good clues, hurshy, but I’m not getting them yet ( just started this grid about 10 minutes ago).
12:16 pm
bleugirl2

muslim holy war
1:26 pm
cybernan

hello if anyone is still here :)
1:45 pm
BzznBea

namaste
1:47 pm
cybernan

hi bea
1:48 pm
MollyL

Hi Nan
1:48 pm
cybernan

hi molly
2:01 pm
cybernan

not finding that first te 7 -- any hints please?
2:02 pm
cybernan

also have only the ve 4
2:03 pm
cybernan

found the first two v's
2:04 pm
cybernan

and the last
2:08 pm
cybernan

done :)
2:22 pm
ch1212

Congrats, nan. Would you clue that te7 please?
2:27 pm
jesdraggon

afternoon all :)
2:27 pm
ch1212

hi jesdraggon.
2:37 pm
doseffing

the two te7/28 have the same letters and sound like the large soup bowl
2:38 pm
jesdraggon

thanks dose :)
2:38 pm
ch1212

thank you dose!
2:38 pm
jesdraggon

I wondered, but didn't try because that's not how you spell that!
2:38 pm
doseffing

... oh ya never know what might happen with Enable
2:39 pm
jesdraggon

i should know by now to just try it anyway
2:43 pm
doseffing

... and done ... may I offer any clues for anyone? ...
2:43 pm
jesdraggon

i've got 37 left, don't even know what to ask for :)
2:44 pm
ch1212

thank you dose, but your help put me over the top too. See you all tomorrow :)
2:44 pm
jesdraggon

maybe the stats for the 8?
2:44 pm
doseffing

... plural of one of the te7/28
2:44 pm
jesdraggon

well that's entirely too obvious, thanks :)
2:45 pm
jesdraggon

nbt/nbs
2:45 pm
doseffing

... hey ... I only monkeyed them ...
2:47 pm
doseffing

.. oh well .... must be off ... luck to all who continue the struggle ....
2:47 pm
jesdraggon

have a good weekend, thanks!
3:39 pm
periwinkle

hi all. I have neither ofthe te7's or the te8 help please
3:39 pm
periwinkle

this an awful grid
3:40 pm
periwinkle

nm just found the two te7 and the te8
3:40 pm
periwinkle

was looking at the wrong
3:41 pm
periwinkle

T
4:12 pm
medusa

what
4:12 pm
medusa

What T do they come from?